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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 14, 2017 at 1:16 pm
(April 13, 2017 at 4:19 pm)Drich Wrote: (April 12, 2017 at 5:33 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Honestly what Hitler was regarding Christianity seems to have evolved over his lifetime, at towards the end he seemed more concerned that the churches of Germany be German than that they be Christian and had a fair amount of criticism for organized Christianity. But there's no indication at all that he didn't remain a theist his whole life or reject that Jesus was the son of God'; and the majority of Nazis were at least nominally Christian, in much the same way that the majority of Americans are at least nominally Christian. This is what kills me. I provide proof, that Hitler HATED Christianity and selective ignorance demands you pretend to not see the proof, and recite a lie that you find comforting..
(April 12, 2017 at 4:53 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Way to prove our point for us. Boy you are dense. This post does not say Hitler said "I don't believe in any god whatsoever"...... It proves Hitler got tons of CHRISTIANS to put him in power.
Looks like Zum Von IZ Movin Zee Goal Posten!!!
Read Zee OP Again Mein Moron!
No vhere in Zee OP dothest it zay Hitler didn't fool Christians! It zayz Heim Hitler Vas a Christian!!!
(April 12, 2017 at 5:27 pm)Fireball Wrote: Attempted erudition when quoting other languages fail
ache du lieber ≠ ACHe liben
doom cuffs ≠ dummkopf  Notwithstanding all the other shit wrong with it.
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First of all, Wikipedia does not equal proof. This is the problem with christian "reasoning". If it's written and supports your argument, it's true. If it doesn't, no matter who it's by, it's wrong.
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 14, 2017 at 1:27 pm
(April 14, 2017 at 1:16 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: (April 13, 2017 at 4:19 pm)Drich Wrote: This is what kills me. I provide proof, that Hitler HATED Christianity and selective ignorance demands you pretend to not see the proof, and recite a lie that you find comforting..
Looks like Zum Von IZ Movin Zee Goal Posten!!!
Read Zee OP Again Mein Moron!
No vhere in Zee OP dothest it zay Hitler didn't fool Christians! It zayz Heim Hitler Vas a Christian!!!
Den, Pleaze Explain Heir Fireball!
First of all, Wikipedia does not equal proof. This is the problem with christian "reasoning". If it's written and supports your argument, it's true. If it doesn't, no matter who it's by, it's wrong.
Actually depending on the individual article only. Wiki has 10's of thousands of fact checkers worldwide. The history part of it can be slanted sure, but as far as over all quality, I'd say they do a better job than fox news for example.
Everything is sourced at the bottom of each article and they do have a way for one to point out errors too. I find their articles on science very accurate.
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 14, 2017 at 2:59 pm
Brian is right. Discounting Wiki because it's Wiki is in need of a name so it can be listed in the logical fallacies.
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 14, 2017 at 3:06 pm
(April 14, 2017 at 2:59 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Brian is right. Discounting Wiki because it's Wiki is in need of a name so it can be listed in the logical fallacies.
If he would have worded it as evidence, rather than proof I would have kept my mouth shut. So tired of misusing words for their own bullshit.
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 14, 2017 at 5:36 pm
Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean they ARE a christian... "by their fruit ye shall know them".
Doesn't Trump claim to be a christian yet pronounced second Corinthians as "two" Corinthians... 
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 14, 2017 at 5:54 pm
(April 14, 2017 at 5:36 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean they ARE a christian... "by their fruit ye shall know them".
Doesn't Trump claim to be a christian yet pronounced second Corinthians as "two" Corinthians...
When exactly is someone a Christian though?
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 14, 2017 at 7:05 pm
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(April 12, 2017 at 12:16 pm)Chad32 Wrote: (April 12, 2017 at 12:04 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: . . . still, there is a stripe of US Christer that has to be thinking, "If only those mean old Jews hadn't murdered Jesus".
Always funny when people want to act offended that a guy who was on this planet solely to get killed, got himself killed.
Are we back to no free will in the presence of an omniscient god?
(April 14, 2017 at 5:36 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean they ARE a christian... "by their fruit ye shall know them".
Doesn't Trump claim to be a christian yet pronounced second Corinthians as "two" Corinthians...
bold mine
Yeah, it does, You claim it, you own it, they are all fruit.
What you have here is your christian sliding scale.
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 14, 2017 at 7:22 pm
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(April 14, 2017 at 5:54 pm)Alex K Wrote: (April 14, 2017 at 5:36 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean they ARE a christian... "by their fruit ye shall know them".
Doesn't Trump claim to be a christian yet pronounced second Corinthians as "two" Corinthians...
When exactly is someone a Christian though?
When their lifestyle doesn't contradict biblical principals.
The word "christian" literally means to be like Christ.
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 14, 2017 at 7:22 pm
(April 14, 2017 at 5:36 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean they ARE a christian... "by their fruit ye shall know them".
Doesn't Trump claim to be a christian yet pronounced second Corinthians as "two" Corinthians...
On the one hand I agree with this because some people use religion to get political leverage even while they might be privately as skeptical as any atheist.
In Hitler's case there seems to be at least anecdotal evidence of him showing significant skepticism and signs that his interests point towards scientific scepticism beyond anecdotal evidence.
On the other hand I don't really care about claims of people not being a true Christian or Muslim because they don't follow the "true" ways of Islam or Christianity.
I think Christians and Muslims can be aggressively violent despite the fact you can cherry pick verses from both the bible and the quran that promote peace for example.
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RE: Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian
April 14, 2017 at 7:27 pm
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(April 14, 2017 at 7:22 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: The word "christian" literally means to be like Christ.
No..it doesn't, lol. I guess you dodged a bullet on that one though. You wouldn't exactly pass the litmus test. Christians are people who believe in christ. That, Huggy, is what the word means - literally and practically. That's all it means. Everything else is up for grabs.
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