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The Trinity and Mary
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#51
RE: The Trinity and Mary
May 26, 2017 at 11:57 am
Lek is one of those people who thinks that his 'god' has nothing better to do with his time than spend time talking to him.

The arrogance of believers is truly amazing.
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RE: The Trinity and Mary
May 30, 2017 at 4:08 am (This post was last modified: May 30, 2017 at 4:09 am by Fake Messiah.)
(May 24, 2017 at 6:47 pm)Lek Wrote: He opened a bible and went to this verse:

Isaiah 7:14New Living Translation (NLT)
14 All right then, the Lord himself will give you the sign. Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son and will call him Immanuel (which means ‘God is with us’).

Ah, Christians are so desperate to cling to Isaiah 7:14. First it's not a virgin and also to cling to it because baby's name Immanuel means "‘God is with us" is trully pathetic. This means that Christians would be happy if the baby was named all other myriads of names like Matthew (which means "gift of God"), or Joseph ("Jehovah increases"), or John ("God is gracious"), probably even Jacob ("supplanter" - you know God's supplant) and no doubt even Judas ("praised")

(May 24, 2017 at 6:47 pm)Lek Wrote: He told me that is who Jesus is - God with us.

He lied to you, Lek.  Run from that person because Jesus' name does not mean "God with us" but "Yahweh is salvation" so Jesus could not be the Immanuel since his name has different meaning.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#53
RE: The Trinity and Mary
May 30, 2017 at 12:28 pm (This post was last modified: May 30, 2017 at 12:29 pm by Lek.)
(May 30, 2017 at 4:08 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Ah, Christians are so desperate to cling to Isaiah 7:14. First it's not a virgin and also to cling to it because baby's name Immanuel means "‘God is with us" is trully pathetic. This means that Christians would be happy if the baby was named all other myriads of names like Matthew (which means "gift of God"), or Joseph ("Jehovah increases"), or John ("God is gracious"), probably even Jacob ("supplanter" - you know God's supplant) and no doubt even Judas ("praised")

Isaiah doesn't say that his name would be Immanuel, but rather that he would be called Immanuel.  

Quote:He lied to you, Lek.  Run from that person because Jesus' name does not mean "God with us" but "Yahweh is
salvation" so Jesus could not be the Immanuel since his name has different meaning.

Ditto.
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