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RE: Do we live in a universe where theism is likely true? (video)
May 22, 2017 at 4:17 pm
(May 22, 2017 at 12:29 pm)LostLocke Wrote: First off, it's 3x the volume of the oceans, so we're still just looking at a whopping 4% of the total Earth's volume.
Second, it isn't liquid water like on the surface. It's water molecules trapped inside rock. If the ringwoodite's pressure drop fast enough to release the H2O molecules you'd get caustic chemicals, not pure water.
Yes, I would agree.
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RE: Do we live in a universe where theism is likely true? (video)
May 22, 2017 at 4:19 pm
Anything, if one convinces himself enough, could be true. However, I would rather only believe it to be true if there was sufficient evidence to support it as true.
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RE: Do we live in a universe where theism is likely true? (video)
May 22, 2017 at 4:25 pm
Asserting the Jesus of your faith is looking out over a universe with a billion galaxies in it and yet all torqued off I'm sticking my hand up "Steve from Montreal's" butthole seems to be a variety of blasphemy worthy of quite a stint in the eternal lake of fire . . .
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RE: Do we live in a universe where theism is likely true? (video)
May 22, 2017 at 9:32 pm
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(May 22, 2017 at 12:56 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I accept the big bang and evolution. But I do think things are a little too perfect to have happened entirely by themselves/by random chance.
And of course, everything that exists in our natural, physical world had to have come from somewhere. Things in our world don't make themselves from nothing, and they all have a beginning. Belief in a spiritual, supernatural world that isn't bound by the laws of our physical natural world (including the laws of time) allows for the possibility that a force that has always existed was responsible for the very first spec of "thing" that would eventually become our universe.
Quote:That sounds suspiciously like intelligent deign.
Anyway, that's what makes the most sense to me personally. And if you have a problem with it, you can suck my vajay. 
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RE: Do we live in a universe where theism is likely true? (video)
May 23, 2017 at 5:08 am
(May 22, 2017 at 4:25 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Asserting the Jesus of your faith is looking out over a universe with a billion galaxies in it and yet all torqued off I'm sticking my hand up "Steve from Montreal's" butthole seems to be a variety of blasphemy worthy of quite a stint in the eternal lake of fire . . .
I'm pretty sure that the God idea was probably made for the express purpose of stopping people doing stuff like that. People have to learn to respect that some doors are "in" doors, and some doors are "out" doors.
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RE: Do we live in a universe where theism is likely true? (video)
May 23, 2017 at 9:51 am
yet "Steve" enjoys a continuous anal O from my ministrations courtesy the design work of that same god . . .
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RE: Do we live in a universe where theism is likely true? (video)
May 23, 2017 at 10:05 am
Catholic_Lady Wrote:And of course, everything that exists in our natural, physical world had to have come from somewhere. Things in our world don't make themselves from nothing, and they all have a beginning.
It seems premature to assert they all had a beginning when we've never observed matter and energy do anything but transform...except for virtual particles, which seem to be completely spontaneous, not very supportive of the conclusion you want to reach. Evidence points to all the matter and energy in the universe once having been in a very hot, dense state. We do not know yet what preceded that hot dense state, or even if 'preceded' is meaningful considering time started in our cosmos when that hot dense point started expanding. All the matter and energy in the universe having always existed in some form or another is a distinct possibility that we have not eliminated yet, but they have definitely always existed in our cosmos and since that's from when time began, you have to go 'before time' to find a time when all the matter and the universe even possibly might not have existed.
Don't trust your intuitions when it comes to cosmology and quantum physics. Our brain did not evolve to function on those levels.
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RE: Do we live in a universe where theism is likely true? (video)
May 23, 2017 at 11:21 am
There is no proof that matter and energy have always existed and have no beginning (just as there is no proof of god). As far as we know, matter and energy come from somewhere, and are effected by time.
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RE: Do we live in a universe where theism is likely true? (video)
May 23, 2017 at 5:54 pm
Great video, thanks for sharing!
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RE: Do we live in a universe where theism is likely true? (video)
May 23, 2017 at 6:55 pm
(May 23, 2017 at 11:21 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: There is no proof that matter and energy have always existed and have no beginning (just as there is no proof of god). As far as we know, matter and energy come from somewhere, and are effected by time.
Have you been taking 'how to shoot yourself in the foot' lessons?
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