General Election (8th June, 2017)

[Iroscato]

Well, the Tories have blown their majority and May is probably going to walk the plank. Boris Johnson is just now calling his doctor to express concern over his four-hour erection.

[downbeatplumb]

Well, the Tories have blown their majority and May is probably going to walk the plank. Boris Johnson is just now calling his doctor to express concern over his four-hour erection.

They do get painful after a while.

[pocaracas]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/...isastrous/

- Hung parliament confirmed after 'no Tory majority' -- so... the party with most votes is not the one with majority in Parliament. Portugal has had many governments like this.... however, the last time this happened, they convinced the President that a sort of coalition between the Socialists and the Communists had a better chance of passing legislation, so they became government... I wonder if the same could happen in Britain...
- Results so far: Tories win 315 seats, Labour 261, SNP 35, LibDem 12, Other 23 -- what will these "other" do?
- Labour take 23 seats from the Conservatives, up 29 overall -- Strong and Stable my arse! HAHA!
- SNP lose 21 seats, end up with just 35 -- The Scots losing a bit here...
- Pound dives as analysts warn of 'worst outcome' -- Economy analysts are notorious for getting things wrong! (while always backing up the right-wing parties, or conservatives, or whatever keeps the capital in the hands of the 1%). Case study: Portugal - Socialist/communist government and the economy is growing, while the people are happier than under the previous right-wing / belt-tightening / capitalist fools.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Well, the Tories have blown their majority and May is probably going to walk the plank. Boris Johnson is just now calling his doctor to express concern over his four-hour erection.

[bold mine] Sod that. If I have a four-hour erection, I'm calling everyone.

Boru

[I_am_not_mafia]

Brexit is happening because Maybot triggered Article 50. Because the UK can't get a negotiating team together doesn't change this act. All that'll happen in that case is the UK gets kicked out without any deal or prospect of trade negotiatons.

Even if a strong pro remain majority were returned it'd be very iffy to hope Brexit died as there's no mechanism to reverse Art 40.

Could a new government reverse Article 50 and undo Brexit?

Imagine, by some miracle, that Theresa May and the Conservatives lose the June 8 general election.

Could a new government reverse its Article 50 request and undo Brexit?

The short answer is yes.

[Amarok]

Brexit is happening because Maybot triggered Article 50. Because the UK can't get a negotiating team together doesn't change this act. All that'll happen in that case is the UK gets kicked out without any deal or prospect of trade negotiatons.

Even if a strong pro remain majority were returned it'd be very iffy to hope Brexit died as there's no mechanism to reverse Art 40.

Could a new government reverse Article 50 and undo Brexit?

Imagine, by some miracle, that Theresa May and the Conservatives lose the June 8 general election.

Could a new government reverse its Article 50 request and undo Brexit?

The short answer is yes.

One thing I will say I love about the article is the fact of how certain the outcome seems in it

[Pat Mustard]

Brexit is happening because Maybot triggered Article 50. Because the UK can't get a negotiating team together doesn't change this act. All that'll happen in that case is the UK gets kicked out without any deal or prospect of trade negotiatons.

Even if a strong pro remain majority were returned it'd be very iffy to hope Brexit died as there's no mechanism to reverse Art 40.

Could a new government reverse Article 50 and undo Brexit?

Imagine, by some miracle, that Theresa May and the Conservatives lose the June 8 general election.

Could a new government reverse its Article 50 request and undo Brexit?

The short answer is yes.

And the rest of the article goes on to state the EU parliament has to pass legislation to amend the ToL, before ratificaion from all 27 governments (which in the case of Irealand at least means referendum as it's a constitutional change). So the answer is realyy "before Brexit has to be completed, not a fucking hope, maybe 25 years later if you're lucky".

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My worry is the deal Mayhem's struck with the DUP. A return of "a protestant parliament for a protestant people" is on the cards.

[I_am_not_mafia]

If the UK tries to rescind Article 50 and stay in the EU, this will massively strengthen the EU because it will show that winning a referendum on leaving can end up with fucking up the economy and failing after two years of uncertainty before staying in. It will be a major deterrent to potential Euro-sceptic voters everywhere.

And it wasn't the older generation changing their mind but the younger generation finally getting out and voting. It has been suggested in the past that a deal could be struck by the EU to keep these pro-EU voters to remain somehow. We've seen in Scotland how the referendum got people interested in politics. That youth vote is not going away any time soon.

[emjay]

If the UK tries to rescind Article 50 and stay in the EU, this will massively strengthen the EU because it will show that winning a referendum on leaving can end up with fucking up the economy and failing after two years of uncertainty before staying in. It will be a major deterrent to potential Euro-sceptic voters everywhere.

And it wasn't the older generation changing their mind but the younger generation finally getting out and voting. It has been suggested in the past that a deal could be struck by the EU to keep these pro-EU voters to remain somehow. We've seen in Scotland how the referendum got people interested in politics. That youth vote is not going away any time soon.

If it's a realistic possibility not just an optimistic possibility then I'm over the moon. I see the Brexit vote as the result of remain complacency... if remainers had come out in full force as leavers did, we probably wouldn't be in this mess. So I don't see it as truly representative, and if there were another referendum I'm sure we wouldn't make the same mistake twice. In my heart of hearts that's what I'm hoping for but if such a vote took place and leave still won, then I'd accept it as representative.

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My worry is the deal Mayhem's struck with the DUP. A return of "a protestant parliament for a protestant people" is on the cards.

I don't know what's going on yet, I haven't caught up yet, but if what you say is the case that's all the Tories need... an extra dose of religion /sarcasm

[I_am_not_mafia]

The English votes for English laws will be coming back to bite the Tories now they have to rely on 13 seats in Scotland.