10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer

[Harry Nevis]

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I have no answer. So fucking what? Where did I claim otherwise?

You believe in the big bang so yes the big bang is claimed by you.

GC

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Is this something your god told you?  Evidence please that I believe in the Big Bang.  Or do you "know" this in the same way you "know" god?

[Mister Agenda]

Who is my 'most revered scientist'? Why do I revere her or him so much?

I am drawing a blank right now, not unusual at 2 o'clock in the morning. The black guy that's done several things for PBS. I guess because I've seen in the news he has reached super star status in the science world. You know making stars out of scientist is a slippery slope.

GC

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Okay everyone I'm having a hard time fielding all these post, I just don't have the time so I'm probably not going to respond to anymore in this thread unless I believe them to be reasonable. So if I don't respond to yours don't get upset, your response might be reasonable, but just not one that I will answer it.

Please give me a break.  And goodnight and all have a great weekend.

GC

You're probably thinking of Neil deGrasse Tyson. He's a decent scientist but more of a populizer of science, which is often what a scientist actually gets famous for.

And give yourself a break. No law says you have to answer everything that's posted. I hope you had a good weekend.

[Godscreated]

I am drawing a blank right now, not unusual at 2 o'clock in the morning. The black guy that's done several things for PBS. I guess because I've seen in the news he has reached super star status in the science world. You know making stars out of scientist is a slippery slope.

GC

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Okay everyone I'm having a hard time fielding all these post, I just don't have the time so I'm probably not going to respond to anymore in this thread unless I believe them to be reasonable. So if I don't respond to yours don't get upset, your response might be reasonable, but just not one that I will answer it.

Please give me a break.  And goodnight and all have a great weekend.

GC

You're probably thinking of Neil deGrasse Tyson. He's a decent scientist but more of a populizer of science, which is often what a scientist actually gets famous for.

And give yourself a break. No law says you have to answer everything that's posted. I hope you had a good weekend.

 Thanks I did, had some down time with the wife, to relax and enjoy the quite. Yes Tyson is who I was referring to there's also an Asian-American scientist, at least I believe him to be an American. If I don't explain why I'm not answering all the post coming my way there are those who will say I ran out on the conversation, not referring to you.

GC

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You believe in the big bang so yes the big bang is claimed by you.

GC

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Is this something your god told you?  Evidence please that I believe in the Big Bang.  Or do you "know" this in the same way you "know" god?

 You've been trying to defend it, so what am I to think.

GC

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 Okay I'll accept it's an answer in the manner you present, that means the big bang is the wrong answer, simply because it does nothing to explain where the material came from.

GC

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 I'm not avoiding the answer, I told you I can not give you the evidence you want to your satisfaction, I've admitted this. So I'm not being hypocritical but this post does make you the hypocrite. When someone says God doesn't exist i expect the same thing from them they expect from me evidence, this is fair, right. I'm over this back and forth lets's just move on to something that would produce something, this is my last reply on this subject in this thread.

Ok, so the Big Bang is the wrong answer. I'm cool with that. It still doesn't make god the right answer though, because there is no evidence for his existence.

I can play that game too. I have evidence god doesn't exist, but I can't give it to you to your satisfaction so I won't even bother. But it is there, trust me. You're just going round and round to try and trick people into thinking you have actual evidence. It's obvious you don't, and we can all see it. Therefore, we don't accept your claim.

 You do not have to accept my claim, the evidence I received from God was through prayer, you probably believe prayer means nothing so what's left for me to say. However I'm interested in your evidence God doesn't exist. I'm not trying to trick people into thinking anything, why would I even want to do that, it would accomplish nothing.

 GC

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I have a book that takes a life time just to begin and understand all the omniscient God put in it.

Actually, what you have is a system of indoctrination that merely involves adults telling their children what to believe, followed by a lifetime of adherence to ignorance through faith.

 Think what you wish but it surely doesn't make it true except in your deluded mind. There is no system it is a relationship and a way of life.

GC

[Harry Nevis]

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Is this something your god told you?  Evidence please that I believe in the Big Bang.  Or do you "know" this in the same way you "know" god?

 You've been trying to defend it, so what am I to think.

GC

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No, I've been arguing that you've been doing nothing more than replacing a theory you don't understand with a fairy tale you don't understand.  I don't know what you're to think, as I haven't seen much of it from you.

[Foxaèr]

 Think what you wish but it surely doesn't make it true except in your deluded mind. There is no system it is a relationship and a way of life.

GC

Calling it a relationship and a way of life does not exclude it from still being a system of indoctrination.

[Harry Nevis]

Ok, so the Big Bang is the wrong answer. I'm cool with that. It still doesn't make god the right answer though, because there is no evidence for his existence.

I can play that game too. I have evidence god doesn't exist, but I can't give it to you to your satisfaction so I won't even bother. But it is there, trust me. You're just going round and round to try and trick people into thinking you have actual evidence. It's obvious you don't, and we can all see it. Therefore, we don't accept your claim.

 You do not have to accept my claim, the evidence I received from God was through prayer, you probably believe prayer means nothing so what's left for me to say. However I'm interested in your evidence God doesn't exist. I'm not trying to trick people into thinking anything, why would I even want to do that, it would accomplish nothing.

 GC

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Just what would evidence of something not existing look like?

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[Mister Agenda]

Just to clarify, a fair generalization about rational skeptics is that they (or at least one would hope) accept the best, most current science provisionally. If they aren't willing to adjust their opinion on science when science itself adjusts its position due to new evidence, they probably either aren't being properly and rationally skeptical, or they know something most of us don't (I would hesitate to argue with Alex if he was doubtful about new evidence in physics, for instance).

When someone believes in the 'Initial Expansion', it should be a lightly held belief, ready to be discarded in the face of new information. However, what GC might take as faith that the Big Bang happened is more properly taken as awareness that the preponderance of available evidence supports that theory: there is strong evidence that the universe is expanding and predictions have been made about discoveries we should make if the universe was once in a small, hot, dense state, and we have, indeed, made those confirming discoveries. There's always a chance that we'll discover something that makes another explanation more likely, however small.

For instance, it's remotely possible that we're living in a simulation that actually started this morning and any memories and history before that are merely fictional backstory. I can't prove that's not the case. But I can observe that there's currently no good reason to think it actually IS the case.

[Inkfeather132]

Ok, so the Big Bang is the wrong answer. I'm cool with that. It still doesn't make god the right answer though, because there is no evidence for his existence.

I can play that game too. I have evidence god doesn't exist, but I can't give it to you to your satisfaction so I won't even bother. But it is there, trust me. You're just going round and round to try and trick people into thinking you have actual evidence. It's obvious you don't, and we can all see it. Therefore, we don't accept your claim.

 You do not have to accept my claim, the evidence I received from God was through prayer, you probably believe prayer means nothing so what's left for me to say. However I'm interested in your evidence God doesn't exist. I'm not trying to trick people into thinking anything, why would I even want to do that, it would accomplish nothing.

 GC

-_- It was a hypothetical statement to show you how stupid your claim is. I don't have any evidence that god doesn't exist. I also don't have evidence that unicorns, leprechauns, bigfoot, etc. exist, but we all believe they don't. Why? Because we have seen no evidence for them. You don't have evidence that god exists, therefore we don't believe he exists. And prayer is useless, I asked god so many times as a child to let me know he was there. Guess what? I never got an answer. I did everything you say I should do and got no answer. So does your god just not want me then?

[Mister Agenda]

You didn't do it right, Ink. God is like those fish that you can catch with your hands, but only if you tickle their bellies just right.

[Godscreated]

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 You've been trying to defend it, so what am I to think.

GC

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No, I've been arguing that you've been doing nothing more than replacing a theory you don't understand with a fairy tale you don't understand.  I don't know what you're to think, as I haven't seen much of it from you.

 I understand the big bang theory as well as most laymen. It's because you have not beginning point to the theory that you keep arguing with distractions. 

GC

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 You do not have to accept my claim, the evidence I received from God was through prayer, you probably believe prayer means nothing so what's left for me to say. However I'm interested in your evidence God doesn't exist. I'm not trying to trick people into thinking anything, why would I even want to do that, it would accomplish nothing.

 GC

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Just what would evidence of something not existing look like?

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 The stuff you can't seem to find for the beginning of the big bang.
 I'm tired of this discussion with you it's only going in circles, so get your last shot in because I'm finished with this.
GC

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 You do not have to accept my claim, the evidence I received from God was through prayer, you probably believe prayer means nothing so what's left for me to say. However I'm interested in your evidence God doesn't exist. I'm not trying to trick people into thinking anything, why would I even want to do that, it would accomplish nothing.

 GC

-_- It was a hypothetical statement to show you how stupid your claim is. I don't have any evidence that god doesn't exist. I also don't have evidence that unicorns, leprechauns, bigfoot, etc. exist, but we all believe they don't. Why? Because we have seen no evidence for them. You don't have evidence that god exists, therefore we don't believe he exists. And prayer is useless, I asked god so many times as a child to let me know he was there. Guess what? I never got an answer. I did everything you say I should do and got no answer. So does your god just not want me then?

 I knew you had no evidence, that's why I asked and besides how could you have evidence that God doesn't exist when He does and yes I know without doubt that He does.

 As for what you did as a child I can't answer to because you gave vague detail and actually I do not even know if you ever went to church, had believing parents or anything else, for all I know you made that up.

GC

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 Think what you wish but it surely doesn't make it true except in your deluded mind. There is no system it is a relationship and a way of life.

GC

Calling it a relationship and a way of life does not exclude it from still being a system of indoctrination.

 Yes it does, because what I have is real.

GC