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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
June 27, 2017 at 4:40 pm
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(June 27, 2017 at 4:30 pm)Godscreated Wrote: A new name shouldn't change a person and it surely want change me, besides the truth is eternal, never changing. Well, at least some truths™ are. 
Quote:I agree that was his intention, however those who believe in the Bible being actual truth doesn't hinder me or anyone who studies the Bible to understand it's literal truths. Literalist can actually use the Bible to distort it's truths because not all verses are meant to be literal and some have twofold meanings. By the way I do not spout falsely about the scriptures, if I have an opinion on what the Bible could be saying on a subject I say so. My faith doesn't conflict with reality, in actuality it is reality, those who tyr to manipulate the Bible are the ones moving away from God's reality and in the end it's His that counts.
Yeah, I know that you believe that your faith doesn;t conflict with reality..but..... I've also heard you describe a great deal of your faith...so I know that's not, actually, true, lol.
Quote:No, He reveals the truth, it's you who wants to distort things to suit your own beliefs. I have no desire to distort the word of God i seek it's truth as God would have me to. You didn't even try to answer the questions posed, so your name change has not help you. Why do you refuse to answer question, do you find that traipsing around them secures your position before your fellow atheist.
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I know, god always tells the truth, except when he doesn't...then it's metaphor. Genesis, literal truth, or metaphor? In your estimation? What does magic book tell you?
So, uh...no comments on those bible verses I had an issue with? The ones about killing a jew so that I don't have to go to hell for coveting my neighbors fields?
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
June 27, 2017 at 4:52 pm
(June 27, 2017 at 3:02 pm)Cyberman Wrote: (June 27, 2017 at 2:55 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Don't you get tired of using the same ol' statement that has been shown to be false.
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Then I'll ask you directly. Does "God" love everyone or not? Are there conditions on this love or is it uconditional? Why?
I thank you for actually asking a question instead of telling me I"m wrong.
God's loves everyone and that love is the same, this is the simple answer. God's love is a love beyond our understand, after all He is an Omniscient being. His love is unconditional, it couldn't be otherwise or He would be playing favorites and we would be battling each other like children do to be like more than others. Life isn't a game with God it is serious, He alone knows the results of our choices and only wants the best for each of us.
If you're thinking about trying to us Pharaoh or some other biblical character where God intervened in their life and condemned them understand I addressed that above wiyh the underlined words.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
June 27, 2017 at 5:05 pm
God loves Satan ?
And Satan can endure it and continue his rebellion ??
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
June 27, 2017 at 5:12 pm
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(June 27, 2017 at 3:29 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: God's omniscience allows Him to hear the shrieks of the damned during their eternal torment.
And since angels have the power to rebel, why wouldn't they have omniscient capability hearing too ?
You have the same capability to rebel as the angels did and you have exercised it, it's plain to see. Can you honestly hear the people in hell screaming, neither can the angels, they and you are not omniscient.
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(June 27, 2017 at 5:05 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: God loves Satan ?
And Satan can endure it and continue his rebellion ??
God loves you and you endure it and continue to rebel.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
June 27, 2017 at 5:30 pm
(June 27, 2017 at 4:52 pm)Godscreated Wrote: (June 27, 2017 at 3:02 pm)Cyberman Wrote: Then I'll ask you directly. Does "God" love everyone or not? Are there conditions on this love or is it uconditional? Why?
I thank you for actually asking a question instead of telling me I"m wrong.
God's loves everyone and that love is the same, this is the simple answer. God's love is a love beyond our understand, after all He is an Omniscient being. His love is unconditional, it couldn't be otherwise or He would be playing favorites and we would be battling each other like children do to be like more than others. Life isn't a game with God it is serious, He alone knows the results of our choices and only wants the best for each of us.
If you're thinking about trying to us Pharaoh or some other biblical character where God intervened in their life and condemned them understand I addressed that above wiyh the underlined words.
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Thank you for the honest answer. No, I wasn't going to bring up the Pharaoh of the mythology (why is that always used as a proper noun, by the way, instead of the honorific? Whenever we talk about Trump or whoever is the incumbent du jour, we don't say "hey, guess what President did today").
Okay, "God's" love is unconditional. Cool. Is there any circumstance in which that unconditionality (ack!) is ever revoked? What I'm asking is does "God" love each of us unconditionally no matter what?
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
June 27, 2017 at 5:34 pm
The Yazidis theology makes more sense. They believe Lucifer truly repented, God forgave him, and Lucy is God's right-hand man again. It makes a lot more sense than a cartoon character who KNOWS how things are going to end for him but still does it for the evils.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
June 27, 2017 at 6:08 pm
Sounds like the kind of God to me that would enjoy hearing the shrieks and gnashing of teeth of the damned, and folks that don't might not find favor in His gaze.
NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's command, orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male children and "... every woman who has known man ...." (Note: How would it be determined which women had known men? One can only speculate.)
NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.
DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Sihon.
DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Og.
DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to "utterly destroy" and show "no mercy" to those whom he gives them for defeat.
DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves."
DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes."
DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their captive wives. If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.
DT 28:53 "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you."
JS 1:1-9, 18 Joshua receives the Lord's blessing for all the bloody endeavors to follow.
JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval, Joshua destroys the city of Jericho--men, women, and children--with the edge of the sword.
JS 7:19-26 Achan, his children and his cattle are stoned to death because Achan had taken a taboo thing.
JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men and women, so that there were none who escaped.
JS 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua utterly destroys the Gibeonites.
JS 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Makkedah.
JS 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Libnahites.
JS 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Lachish.
JS 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Eglonites.
JS 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Hebronites.
JS 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Debirites.
JS 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua defeated the whole land ...; he left none remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded."
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
June 27, 2017 at 7:22 pm
In Post #182 if you use the Bible's God's name and rank you get this:
"Yahweh, the God of the Hebrews and the God of the armies, loves everyone and that love is the same, this is the simple answer. Yahweh's = the God of the Hebrews and the God of the armies = love is a love beyond our understand, after all He is an Omniscient being. His love is unconditional, it couldn't be otherwise or He would be playing favorites and we would be battling each other like children do to be like more than others. Life isn't a game with Yahweh = the God of the Hebrews and the God of the armies = it is serious, He alone knows the results of our choices and only wants the best for each of us.
If you're thinking about trying to us Pharaoh or some other biblical character where Yahweh = the God of the Hebrews and the God of the armies = intervened in their life and condemned them understand I addressed that above wiyh the underlined words."
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
June 27, 2017 at 8:43 pm
If gods love is unconditional then why are so many destined to burn in hell?
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
June 27, 2017 at 9:52 pm
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