10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer

[Amarok]

Of course there going to counter by blathering on about god having to respect freewill and some bullocks. A god who can't interfere with freewill for the good of the cosmos. And would choose freewill even if it meant the needless suffering of billions is a beast .Hell a group of coast guards rescuing a suicide against his freewill can brag to be more moral. If god cannot defy his nature and is compelled to only act a certain way then he's a weak god indeed.

[Mister Agenda]

He loves everyone who voluntarily enslaves themselves to him based on how convincing they find his ghostwriters and sales reps, everybody else can go to hell.

Don't you get tired of using the same ol' statement that has been shown to be false. 

GC

I don't recall ever having made that exact statement previously, so I don't see why I would be tired of it. But I love finding out I'm wrong about something: I seem to have been out the day my statement was shown to be false, would you demonstrate its falseness again please, so that I may be enlightened?

[Godscreated]

Don't you get tired of using the same ol' statement that has been shown to be false. 

GC

I don't recall ever having made that exact statement previously, so I don't see why I would be tired of it. But I love finding out I'm wrong about something: I seem to have been out the day my statement was shown to be false, would you demonstrate its falseness again please, so that I may be enlightened?

Read what you wrote then go check it against the Bible.

GC

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No, He couldn't have done anything different, if He could have don't you think He would have spared Jesus the horrors He had to endure, I know he would have. You seem to live on the edge of insanity. It's the way that the creator pays for and corrects what the created did. You yourself have said many times that God should fix this messed up world, He did and you have yet to realize it.

If God could not have done anything differently, then he is not omnipotent.

Omnipotence has nothing to do with how God must deal with sin. He wiped out man once and we didn't learn. God's omnipotence doesn't allow Him to force you into Christianity. God is limited in certain ways because of who He is, that should be obvious if you've ever read the Bible.

GC

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There was no limit, God made the ultimate sacrifice because man has screwed everything up He went as far as was possible for us.   I know your feelings about Christianity, but a God who would sacrifice what He did should say something to you about how much He cares.

Well, if there was no limit (amusing. since two posts ago you told me that god couldn;t have done anything different..your beliefs are strangely movable)

I was referring to God's limitlessness in His sacrifice, so the two statements go hand in hand. God did the only thing He could and did it with no limitations.

god could have achieved this some other way..some way other than the abject depravity of a blood sacrifice carried out upon another.  What is he supposed to have sacrificed,  A few nights of his eternal weekend?  Talk about finding a way to make a shitty thing even shittier by handling it in a trivial way.

The Son gave up more than you can imagine, He is eternally bound to a physical body, He being creator of man had to endure the humiliation at the hands of those He created. He has endured the rejection of His love through the sacrifices He made, that's just a few things. You're so smart tell us what else God could have done and still preserved mans free choice of accepting or rejecting Him. Don't forget the first sin was paid for with blood, you need to consider that in your attempt to be smarter than God.

Stalkers "care" too, caring counts for shit when the subject is vicarious redemption.  Didn't care enough to do it some other, limitless way, huh?  So I guess that's another brick in the wall of bones.  Not only does "god" decide for no specific limitations to do the unthinkable, in a trivial way..because of it he damns any person who will not accept the fruit from the poisoned tree - any person who cannot in good conscience and will not accept the death of another for his own misdeeds.  What a spectacular failure.

You call it vicarious redemption and rightly so, but then you demean what you say by saying it was no big deal, "He gave up one weekend." I'll be waiting on your powers of reasoning that goes beyond what God knows needed to happen.

Or maybe all of this shit is made up.  Gee........lemme think.

Yes please do, thinking through reasoning is something you do poorly when it comes to God.

I didn't think you knew what it meant, your dodging the question because you don't want to be wrong about this. Well you are and we know it don't we. Try again this time say something reasonable instead of the same ol' trash atheist throw around, it's unbecoming of the intelligent.

GC

So he's not there, on the tip of every assaulting peen..or?

I believe I'm seeing you scared to honestly answer a question, what's the problem, don't want others to see you get something wrong, to late they already have. Aswer like the smart person you say you are.
GC

[ManofYesterday]

I don't even think I'm a "biblical literalist"--whatever that means in this context, but this looks fun.

1. Can you make a moral judgment against rape or slavery using only scripture?

"Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

2. Would you sacrifice your child if god asked you to?

Of course--or I hope I'd have the wisdom to do it if God had asked me to do it. My reasoning is that an omniscient and all-good being who is my creator would have morally sufficient reasons (i.e. good reasons) for asking me to sacrifice my child. To believe my moral intuition and reasoning is superior to the very ontology of moral intuition and reasoning would be foolish, to say the least. It'd be like sawing off the branch on which I'm standing.

3. Is it acceptable to cherry pick the bible and only follow the parts you agree with?

No, not unless you have very good reason to believe that the part in question is not of God.

4. How did animal X get from point Y to point Z after the great flood?

It may be the case that God, being an omnipotent being, helped Noah. Or perhaps He commanded His angels to help Noah.

5. How did carnivorous dinosaurs supposedly eat plants before the biblical fall of man, when their teeth and digestive systems were not equipped to process a vegetarian diet?

Where in the Bible does it say that food was a requirement for living? Before the fall, there was no death. If there was food then it was probably eaten for pure pleasure. Moreover, it would seem (or at least it's my interpretation) that the dinosaurs were before man.

6. Can god tell a lie?

No.

7. Is observable physical evidence more important and valid than what the bible claims to be true?

The Bible should be weighed using reason and evidence, so this question is malformed.

8. Is there any amount of evidence that would change your views?

If the body of Jesus was discovered. If it could be shown that God is logically incoherent. If it could be shown that God is not needed to explain why and how the universe(s) came into being (or why and how they exist if they're eternal).

9. What physical proof is there that your particular god even exists?

Past-eternal universe is logically incoherent and contemporary scientific evidence points to a past-finite universe. The idea of nonbeing producing being is logically incoherent and there's no scientific evidence of it ever happening.

10. Do you believe hell is a justifiable punishment for a simple lack of belief?

What matters is what the origin of justice and love thinks, not a creation of that justice and love. Why would you ask a creation if something like Hell is justifiable? You're basically saying that the God of the universe, an omnipotent, omniscient, and all-good being doesn't know what a justifiable punishment is for not believing in Him. If He doesn't know then who does? So whatever punishment there is, if it's truly being given out by the creator of the universe, then what can I or you say? Finally, I define Hell as eternal separation from God, the origin of love, reason, mathematics, science, the universe, etc.

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Of course there going to counter by blathering on about god having to respect freewill and some bullocks. A god who can't interfere with freewill for the good of the cosmos. And would choose freewill even if it meant the needless suffering of billions is a beast .Hell a group of coast guards rescuing a suicide against his freewill can brag to be more moral. If god cannot defy his nature and is compelled to only act a certain way then he's a weak god indeed.

Now this is interesting. You're essentially saying that if God did exist, you wouldn't like Him.

That's why Hell exists. Hell is eternal separation from God and it's a quarantine for people who freely reject Him.

[vorlon13]

6. Yes

Numbers 14:30
30 Not one of you will enter the land I swore with uplifted hand to make your home, except Caleb son of Jephunneh and Joshua son of Nun.

[ManofYesterday]

6.  Yes

Numbers 14:30
30 Not one of you will enter the land I swore with uplifted hand to make your home, except Caleb son of Jephunneh and Joshua son of Nun.

You're going to have to elaborate here, bud. I don't talk squirrel.

[vorlon13]

Dumbing it down all the way yields:

God lied.

[ManofYesterday]

Dumbing it down all the way yields:

God lied.

No, your first post was dumb enough. Don't make it even dumber. I'm asking you to elaborate.

EDIT:

Well, I guess he ran off. That was weird. The atheists here aren't very good at atheisting.

[Inkfeather132]

GC

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If God could not have done anything differently, then he is not omnipotent.

Omnipotence has nothing to do with how God must deal with sin. He wiped out man once and we didn't learn. God's omnipotence doesn't allow Him to force you into Christianity. God is limited in certain ways because of who He is, that should be obvious if you've ever read the Bible.

I have read the Bible. And if God is limited in any way then he is not omnipotent. He cannot be all powerful and still have any limitations.

And just a quick note: If God cannot force me to believe, then he is not all powerful. You might want to say that God won't force someone to believe, even if he is capable of it.

[Foxaèr]

GC

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Omnipotence has nothing to do with how God must deal with sin. He wiped out man once and we didn't learn. God's omnipotence doesn't allow Him to force you into Christianity. God is limited in certain ways because of who He is, that should be obvious if you've ever read the Bible.

I have read the Bible. And if God is limited in any way then he is not omnipotent. He cannot be all powerful and still have any limitations.

God of the bible is simply limited by the imagination of man; which is precisely why apologetics is a thing.