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Another van drives into a crowd in London
RE: Another van drives into a crowd in London
(19th June 2017, 14:51)Aroura Wrote:
(19th June 2017, 09:43)wallym Wrote: If you need people to publicly condemn attacks, does that mean your assumption is that everybody's default is pro-terrorism, and you can only know they are against a particular incident if you hear them say it?  

LET IT BE KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE LANDS, I, wallym, with an opinion that is sure to rock the very foundation of society as we know it, stand AGAINST people purposely murdering pedestrians with vans!  It is a brave stance, and one that will surely come at great personal cost.  I am also against children having cancer, and burning down orphanages.  I don't care what anyone says, that's just how I feel.

You honestly never crossed my mind when I made this comment.

It is odd how if a mulim does something, some people are right on it, and if not, then not. You arent one of those people. As do most people, I suspect. Some might condem it personally, but are less vocal about it when it isn't a muslim perp, which seems puzzling. Again, not you.

Personally, I'm with you, I condem it no matter who commits the act. There are a lot of innocents being harmed over something they aren't at all involved in. Poor London seems to be a hot spot, lately.

I wasn't saying it about me specifically, was just trying to be funny.  I just always got a kick out of when Obama (or any world leader) would come out after a terrorist attack, like in Paris, and condemn it.  As if this were like wrestling, and the President coming out and smashing the french ambassador from behind with a chair, and announcing the US is forming a Tag Team with ISIS was a real possibility, so we all have to hold our breath to make sure Obama was still one of the good guys. "Oh, he condemned it. Thank God. Was worried he was finally going to turn heel."

I would say on the comment side, there just isn't much to say about this one.  Shitty guy tries to kill Muslims.  That sucks.  There's not really much to discuss, unless somebody is on the side of the shitty guy.  With muslim attacks, there's the issue of immigration, religion, cultural acclimation, foreign policy, etc...  

I think the cut and dry things like this are tougher to have a conversation about, because almost everybody is in agreement.
RE: Another van drives into a crowd in London
This guy just killed and injured innocent people.  If we want to hit back at terrorists we have to relentlessly pursue them at their source.  That means continually hitting ISIS groups wherever we find them in the world and don't give them a chance to breathe.  This is something that should bind the nations together in common interest.
RE: Another van drives into a crowd in London
(19th June 2017, 13:07)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(18th June 2017, 21:38)vorlon13 Wrote: Sunni shia thing?

or disgruntled Anglican wanting to 'take back' Britain ?

He was Welsh so he may have been after a sheep. He was however shouting "I want to kill a muslim" so then again.....

Jealous lover, perhaps?
On goal, baby.
RE: Another van drives into a crowd in London
(18th June 2017, 22:56)vorlon13 Wrote: Mosque perceived as too liberal (espousing Islam of the early 1300s) is attacked by rival 'pious' mosque espousing Islam of the last half of the 1200s ??

The dates'd be most likely the other way round. Most of the liberalism in islam came from before the Mongol invasions, not after. If you ever see a liberal mislim they're either out and ot secular or hewing to older traditions.
Soulless minion of orthodoxy.
RE: Another van drives into a crowd in London
wouldn't be as snarky if written that way though . . .

That's why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more, by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens . . . The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. . . . it is wrong and ultimately self defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must do more to stop it.   

                                                               William Jefferson Clinton


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