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A Question From Atheists
#21
RE: A Question From Atheists
I appreciate your answers. 

Quote:All of them.

Right, so, not a god..just "the universe". 

Do you like chocolate?  If I told you that liking chocolate was being an atheist...-that's just what I meant by the terms..would you then agree that you were also an atheist?  
Welcome aboard. You talk good and everything.
Thank you. 

You asserted that you lack the belief in "all gods". I just presented you the Pantheist's god which is the universe itself. For pantheist, god is another term to refer to the universe. You are claiming that universe cannot be god and these two cannot be unified. I assume this is your subjective opinion. This is a fact that the universe is considered as god in various beliefs.

As for your analogy, I suppose this is a false analogy. Unlike god, Atheism has a very clear definition and nobody would accept your definition " liking chocolate was being an atheist". But "god is the universe" is a valid definition of god, it might be different from the version of god that you have known, but that doesn't mean it's an unacceptable definition.

When you state "I do not believe in any gods" you are implying that you are aware of all gods and you deny their existence. But I just presented the pantheist's god which's existence cannot be negated. 

Quote:Hi, welcome to the forum. 

I don't believe in any gods.
Thank you! As I explained in my initial post, there are gods that clearly do exist. Like this definition of god: God is being. So the assertion that "I don't believe in being" is clearly non-sensical. So you must be more definite. "I don't believe in any gods" doesn't seem to work.

Quote:Nor do we accept the universe or any of it's constituent parts to be any type of god(s). 
So my question remains, what exactly are those type of god(s) that the universe cannot fall into one of those categories? What exactly prevents the universe to be a god?

Quote:As far as pantheism, I of course believe the universe exists, I just don't happen to believe it is a god by any definition I am aware of.
"God is the universe itself" is a definition of god. I'm giving you the definition you do not need any other definitions of god, just consider god is another word to refer to the universe, so I assume you do believe in this god. What I'm asking from you is the definition of those gods in which you do not believe.

Quote:Welcome.

For me no gods exist, never have, except in fantasy. In fantasy anyone can make the most ludicrous things exist. 
Thank you :-) As I explained in my initial post, there are gods that clearly do exist. Like this definition of god: God is the existence itself. So the assertion that "existence does not exist" is clearly non-sensical. So you must be more definite. "I don't believe in any gods" doesn't seem to work.

Quote:I don't believe in any god that has such unusual properties or abilities that it would require positive evidence to justify believing in its existence
Everything requires evidences to believe in its existence. You are reading this sentence so you start believing I'm a human being typing these words. You can't believe in my existence without this evidence. Maybe I'm not getting what you mean?

Quote:when it is really the believer's responsibility and not mine to demonstrate that their specific brand of invisible friend is real.
As an atheist (I assume you are an atheist since you answered my question) you are asserting that "I don't believe in god(s)". The burden is upon you to provide the definition for god, not anyone else. Otherwise you are denying the existence of something which you cannot define which is non-sensical.

Quote:Welcome matey...

Gods? What are they? They mustn't sell them here in Australia.
Thank you. That's what I'm asking. What are those things that an Atheist denies their existence?
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#22
RE: A Question From Atheists
Quote:So when you guys say "I don't believe in God" which god(s) are you referring to?

Every fucking one of them.
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#23
RE: A Question From Atheists
If you're going to dilute God to be the universe, then the term has no meaning whatsoever.

Does the universe watch and judge you when you masterbate?
Does it offer you an extra life?

If that's all god was, we wouldn't have religions.
There is no warm and fuzzy to be found in the cold and heartless universe in which we live in other than that which we feel via our animal emotions.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#24
RE: A Question From Atheists
I can call my left shoe a god, but that doesn't make it any more special than it was before. The same applies to the universe. What does calling it a god do for it?
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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#25
RE: A Question From Atheists
(June 22, 2017 at 9:26 pm)ignoramus Wrote: If you're going to dilute God to be the universe, then the term has no meaning whatsoever.

Does the universe watch and judge you when you masterbate?
Does it offer you an extra life?

If that's all god was, we wouldn't have religions.
There is no warm and fuzzy to be found in the cold and heartless universe in which we live in other than that which we feel via our animal emotions.

Why would a god or the universe watch someone masturbate when there are people having sex in the shower??
Dying to live, living to die.
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#26
RE: A Question From Atheists
"God" lives just above where my wife's legs stop (and this place, in general, is the belly of creation- prove me wrong). Just stop by on some nights when we're both screaming "Oh, god, oh god!", and you'll know what I mean.
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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#27
RE: A Question From Atheists
(June 22, 2017 at 5:03 pm)nosferatu323 Wrote: Hello everyone,

I'm trying to understand the Atheist's point of view and I came across a question, I'd be grateful if you guys help me figure it out.

As you know there are many different gods in various cultures and religions which are significantly varied. The term "God" does not refer to a specific entity. So when you guys say "I don't believe in God" which god(s) are you referring to? What is the definition of that god which does not exist? There are certain gods that clearly do exist . Like the Pantheist's god which is the universe itself, so I assume you are referring to a "certain group of gods" I'd like to know what defines that certain group?  

Thanks for reading and sorry for any mistakes or inaccuracies in my use of the English language. 

Cheers.

All of them. 

If you believe in only one god, you are one god away from being an atheist.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand. 
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#28
RE: A Question From Atheists
So, the word "God" can be re-defined as whatever the hell you want it to be? A basketball on a desert island? The mighty dollar? A Universe? 

A duck? 

A hat?

I don't believe the Universe is "God". It's the Universe. 

Why is it so important to you that folks call something, anything "God"? 
Does it soothe you? 

I don't understand.
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#29
RE: A Question From Atheists
I do not believe in any higher power.

I live in the universe, it is an indifferent reality.

When you make claims that atheists deny the existence of reality when they deny the existence of god,
you are actually attempting to impose your beliefs into my meaning.

You are the person holding the claim that we are a part of (or subject to) something greater than our physical self.

We rejected your beliefs for one reason or another.

If you feel that belief in god gives some sort of legitimacy to your existence, good for you.

I do not want or need it.

I am curious as to what you are trying to accomplish here, will you leave with the opinion atheists cannot disprove the existence of god?
I would ask you to bring us proof. You seem to be playing word games.
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#30
RE: A Question From Atheists
OP, when the Muslims kill and yell allahu Akbar, are they saying the universe is great?

We all agree the universe is great? Why do they need to kill in it's unconscious honour?
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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