Both Bernie and Hillary supporters pissing me off.

[A Theist]

[The Industrial Atheist]

[Minimalist]

She has a bad track record in winning elections though.  She's a very wooden campaigner and does not do well on television.  We must admit the fact that television is the ultimate destroyer of our democracy.  Presidents prior to Kennedy did not have to worry about it.  They could fixate on policy.  Since then, the look seems to matter more than the ideas.  Certainly, the WLB has no ideas worth discussing but there he is, stinking up the oval office.

Beginning with Jimmy Carter, as the democrats moved to the primary system, there have been far more examples of out of left field candidates somehow sweeping to victory on a wave of popular enthusiasm.  Lots of people forget that Gary Hart gave Walter Mondale a scare in 1984 and actually won six more primaries than Mondale.  In 1988, Mike Dukakis emerged after Gary Hart self-destructed but Dukakis then easily beat Jesse Jackson and won 30 primaries.  In 1992 again, a dark horse candidate emerged out of nowhere when Bill Clinton won 35 contests and crushed whatever opposition he faced.  In 2000, Al Gore swept all 57 contests against Bill Bradley and went on to have the election stolen by republicunt crooks.  The considered nominee since 1997, Gore is the one person who was crowned with a nomination that he was expected to get.   In 2008, the race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama pitted the exciting newcomer against the old pro again and while the race was close in terms of actual votes (Clinton actually won the popular vote count) but Obama won 10 more races and the delegates that went with them.  And in 2016 Hillary held off a surprisingly strong run by Sanders, who was not even a Democrat, beating Sanders 34-23 in statewide races. 

So, it is rather pointless to speculate about who will run in 2020 when the party has such a record of the primary system rewarding the unlikely candidate. 

The republicunts seemed until 2016 to use a system whereby the loser in one race got the nod the next time around:

Hence, McCain loses to Bush in 2000.... McCain gets the nomination in 2008.

Romney loses to McCain in 2008... Romney gets to stink out the joint in 2012.

But Rick Santorum, the also ran in 2012 was swept aside early on in the Clown Car rodeo of 2016.  Even that piece of shit would have been a better choice than the WLB.

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She has a bad track record in winning elections though.  She's a very wooden campaigner and does not do well on television.  We must admit the fact that television is the ultimate destroyer of our democracy.  Presidents prior to Kennedy did not have to worry about it.  They could fixate on policy.  Since then, the look seems to matter more than the ideas.  Certainly, the WLB has no ideas worth discussing but there he is, stinking up the oval office.

Beginning with Jimmy Carter, as the democrats moved to the primary system, there have been far more examples of out of left field candidates somehow sweeping to victory on a wave of popular enthusiasm.  Lots of people forget that Gary Hart gave Walter Mondale a scare in 1984 and actually won six more primaries than Mondale.  In 1988, Mike Dukakis emerged after Gary Hart self-destructed but Dukakis then easily beat Jesse Jackson and won 30 primaries.  In 1992 again, a dark horse candidate emerged out of nowhere when Bill Clinton won 35 contests and crushed whatever opposition he faced.  In 2000, Al Gore swept all 57 contests against Bill Bradley and went on to have the election stolen by republicunt crooks.  The considered nominee since 1997, Gore is the one person who was crowned with a nomination that he was expected to get.   In 2008, the race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama pitted the exciting newcomer against the old pro again and while the race was close in terms of actual votes (Clinton actually won the popular vote count) but Obama won 10 more races and the delegates that went with them.  And in 2016 Hillary held off a surprisingly strong run by Sanders, who was not even a Democrat, beating Sanders 34-23 in statewide races. 

So, it is rather pointless to speculate about who will run in 2020 when the party has such a record of the primary system rewarding the unlikely candidate. 

The republicunts seemed until 2016 to use a system whereby the loser in one race got the nod the next time around:

Hence, McCain loses to Bush in 2000.... McCain gets the nomination in 2008.

Romney loses to McCain in 2008... Romney gets to stink out the joint in 2012.

But Rick Santorum, the also ran in 2012 was swept aside early on in the Clown Car rodeo of 2016.  Even that piece of shit would have been a better choice than the WLB.

[Whateverist]

All I know is I voted for her in 2016 but never will again.  She isn't horrible, she is merely unelectable.  The consequences for running someone unelectable against whoever they have in the clown car are obviously too serious to screw around with.

Why is she unelectable?

I think it is because of the republican smear campaign.  I was happy to vote for last time but I want someone with less baggage next time.

[Aegon]

[Amarok]

Id take no message over a fake one based on lies and scapegoating and idiotic jingoism

[Mermaid]

Why is she unelectable?

I think it is because of the republican smear campaign.  I was happy to vote for last time but I want someone with less baggage next time.

I am with you. She was easy to smear because she has a vagina.

[Aegon]

I think it is because of the republican smear campaign.  I was happy to vote for last time but I want someone with less baggage next time.

I am with you. She was easy to smear because she has a vagina.

No. That wasn't the reason. People need to stop hiding behind that.

[vorlon13]

what's with all the oblique references to pap exams ?

[Mermaid]

I am with you. She was easy to smear because she has a vagina.

No. That wasn't the reason. People need to stop hiding behind that.

I don't believe I am hiding behind that. That is my perspective and experience as a woman.

The rampant, extremely ugly sexism over her campaign is not my imagination.