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We are God's perfect imperfection.
#31
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection.
(July 3, 2017 at 3:09 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(July 2, 2017 at 2:57 pm)Astonished Wrote: Or his complete disconnect from reality to think that 'universe from nothing' (the theistic notion, not the Lawrence Krauss version) is any different than poofing into existence from a god who came from nowhere and is somehow immune to the infinite regress of who created the creator. How is a god from nothing not even more preposterous?


Surprise, surprise Ast.
I didn't know that you are an expert in the reality knowledge.

You understand that humans can not be in London and NY at the same time or that we can think at two different subject at the same time so you come to the conclusion that none can be in two places or think at two different subject at the same time.
Right?

Wrong.

Our mind is UNIdimensional while our consciousness is not and this can be experienced by thousand of people who had an NDE experience so this reality is not the real reality.
And what about God.
How would you know that there is a beginning in everything?
Oh, you come to this conclusion because in this limited universe things works in such a way.
Sure.
But what would you know how things works in the real reality?
You don't and yet you keep on bubbling again and again not really knowing what you bubbling about.

Get real son.
Wake up and grow up ASAP.

How in the fuck is this in any way related to the comments you are supposedly replying to? Are you sure you're in the right thread?
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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#32
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection.
I think it can be fairly posited that it is equally arrogant to assume that we mere mortals have any legitimate claim to knowing the nature or even the presence, of an entity such as God, the creator of something so vast and complex as the universe so as to make us insignificant specks in the grand scheme of things. Especially in a way that allows us to assume his existence without the need for objective physical evidence.

If God is too great and "above us" to ever stoop down to our level, based on what can we know his existence to begin with? How do we know he has any of the properties we claim him to have if his very nature places him beyond our comprehension?
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#33
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection.
(July 3, 2017 at 7:47 am)Succubus Wrote:
(July 3, 2017 at 3:09 am)Little Rik Wrote: Surprise, surprise Ast.
I didn't know that you are an expert in the reality knowledge.

You understand that humans can not be in London and NY at the same time or that we can think at two different subject at the same time so you come to the conclusion that none can be in two places or think at two different subject at the same time.
Right?

Wrong.

Our mind is UNIdimensional while our consciousness is not and this can be experienced by thousand of people who had an NDE experience so this reality is not the real reality.
And what about God.
How would you know that there is a beginning in everything?
Oh, you come to this conclusion because in this limited universe things works in such a way.
Sure.
But what would you know how things works in the real reality?
You don't and yet you keep on bubbling again and again not really knowing what you bubbling about.

Get real son.
Wake up and grow up ASAP.

How in the fuck is this in any way related to the comments you are supposedly replying to? Are you sure you're in the right thread?


Are you sure you understood what Ast wrote?  Wacky

To make it short Ast reckon that is .....preposterous.......to think that nobody created God. (if God exist at all of course)
All I did is reply to his post.
Why shouldn't my post be unrelated to Ast post?


color mine.
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#34
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection.
... but the very concept of "perfect imperfection" makes no sense, Iggy.

Oh I see what you mean, just like God!
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#35
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection.
(July 3, 2017 at 8:11 am)YouOnlyLiveTwice Wrote: I think it can be fairly posited that it is equally arrogant to assume that we mere mortals have any legitimate claim to knowing the nature or even the presence, of an entity such as God, the creator of something so vast and complex as the universe so as to make us insignificant specks in the grand scheme of things. Especially in a way that allows us to assume his existence without the need for objective physical evidence.

If God is too great and "above us" to ever stoop down to our level, based on what can we know his existence to begin with? How do we know he has any of the properties we claim him to have if his very nature places him beyond our comprehension?


A tiny little seed has got 100% of the property that the big tree has yet he can not understand the tree.

Yet of course but give time and one day it will and he too will be a tree.  Lightbulb
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#36
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection.
(July 3, 2017 at 8:20 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(July 3, 2017 at 8:11 am)YouOnlyLiveTwice Wrote: I think it can be fairly posited that it is equally arrogant to assume that we mere mortals have any legitimate claim to knowing the nature or even the presence, of an entity such as God, the creator of something so vast and complex as the universe so as to make us insignificant specks in the grand scheme of things. Especially in a way that allows us to assume his existence without the need for objective physical evidence.

If God is too great and "above us" to ever stoop down to our level, based on what can we know his existence to begin with? How do we know he has any of the properties we claim him to have if his very nature places him beyond our comprehension?


A tiny little seed has got 100% of the property that the big tree has yet he can not understand the tree.

Yet of course but give time and one day it will and he too will be a tree.  Lightbulb

An interesting little analogy, but it still doesn't answer my question. How do we, the seed, have any knowledge as to the existence of the God, the tree, if we cannot understand it? You see, in our world, a tree's existence can be proven through objective, empirical evidence. It's not quite the same with God, whose existence is seemingly confirmed only through internal revelations that have no logical or empirical consistency and absolutely no objectivity whatsoever — something I would go so far as to say qualifies as a delusion.

If your argument is that we lack the senses or "capacity" to comprehend God's existence, as the seed does with the absence of perceptual organs, then again I ask, how do we (the seed) have any certain or even probable knowledge as to the existence of God (the tree), let alone the capacity to make claims as to his properties?

To make the claim (especially with certainty) that God is beyond our understanding necessitates a degree of understanding of God's nature in of itself — which is a massive contradiction. Unless, of course, you propose to possess a privileged or enlightened sense of understanding that the rest of us has been denied? If so, then that contradicts other oft-claimed properties of God — namely that he loves us all and made us all equal. If that were the case, nobody would possess any special or privileged ability to understand God's nature, or even understand our inability to do so. So no matter where you try to go with this, you're going to end up contradicting God's oft-attributed qualities. Why? Because they're logical and philosophical contradictions in of themselves, and have always been.
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#37
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection.
(July 3, 2017 at 8:13 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(July 3, 2017 at 7:47 am)Succubus Wrote: How in the fuck is this in any way related to the comments you are supposedly replying to? Are you sure you're in the right thread?


Are you sure you understood what Ast wrote?  Wacky

To make it short Ast reckon that is .....preposterous.......to think that nobody created God. (if God exist at all of course)
All I did is reply to his post.
Why shouldn't my post be unrelated to Ast post?


color mine.

Idiot troll!
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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#38
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection.
I need to stop making silly threads. It just attracts silly people.
I feel like LittleRiks minder, making sand boxes for him to play in.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#39
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection.
(July 3, 2017 at 9:09 am)Succubus Wrote:
(July 3, 2017 at 8:13 am)Little Rik Wrote: Are you sure you understood what Ast wrote?  Wacky

To make it short Ast reckon that is .....preposterous.......to think that nobody created God. (if God exist at all of course)
All I did is reply to his post.
Why shouldn't my post be unrelated to Ast post?


color mine.

Idiot troll!

The insufferable little jackass can't have been stupid enough to misunderstand what I said and get it so backward, so of course he's just bullshitting to be a pain in the ass. That's why I am no longer acknowledging him directly, merely remarking on him like a mildly fascinated psychologist on a field study of religiously-inspired insanity. His dipshit ass couldn't figure out I was ignoring and yet still remarking on him this entire time, as if I'd continue to interact directly with him. I'll continue to say how fucking stupid he is til he dies, and he can go right along trying to provoke me but I'm not interested in talking to shit-flinging lower primates.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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#40
RE: We are God's perfect imperfection.
(July 2, 2017 at 9:41 am)Little Rik Wrote:
(July 2, 2017 at 9:32 am)Astonished Wrote: Yup. Truly astonishing that he seems to think he's the one comparing himself to the minority spouting that the earth isn't flat back in the day.


Yup, yup.
Truly astonishing..............that some people in the 2017 still think that......this universe pop up as per magic and nobody run it.  Wink

Even weirder are some who have personal sky genies.

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"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

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