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Proof of God and Charlie Brown
#11
RE: Proof of God and Charlie Brown
Again, I'm nitpicking, but the tendency to go from order to disorder is not disorder itself. I'm sure it's an acceptable synonym, but not entirely correct.

I'll stop going off-topic and say I love Charlie Brown. Therefore, Charlie Brown exists.
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#12
RE: Proof of God and Charlie Brown
It's more like entropy causes disorder, but that's because it's nature is disorder. There is nothing else that Entropy is but disorder/dispersement. Sorry, still don't think there is anything to your objection.
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#13
RE: Proof of God and Charlie Brown
(October 7, 2010 at 7:49 pm)theVOID Wrote: It's more like entropy causes disorder, but that's because it's nature is disorder. There is nothing else that Entropy is but disorder/dispersement. Sorry, still don't think there is anything to your objection.

There is no reason to be sorry. Smile I'm fine with being told I'm not correct.

It's not an objection really. It's more like an observation. If entropy causes disorder, it cannot be disorder. It cannot be the cause and effect. Like I said, I am sure it is a perfectly acceptable synonym, but, like so many other definitions or synonyms in the English language, it is confusing in its inaccuracy. It is not wildly inaccurate, just a little off.
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#14
RE: Proof of God and Charlie Brown
Yaaay, I sparked a random debate! I feel so proud of myself. Tongue
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#15
RE: Proof of God and Charlie Brown
Haha, it was very random, but it was too friendly to be interesting.
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#16
RE: Proof of God and Charlie Brown
OK, so what's entropy again?
Blame Hitchens, Dawkins & Harris...
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#17
RE: Proof of God and Charlie Brown
(October 7, 2010 at 11:08 pm)gmjackson Wrote: OK, so what's entropy again?

Biodiversity. Devil
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#18
RE: Proof of God and Charlie Brown
We know that all living things on this planet were created by a process of self-organization. If that is true, then doesn't this mean that the universe has to have a "self" to begin with, which doesn't need to be created? Otherwise, I think it's impossible for a collection of atoms to come together and form a living thing if there is no self-organization involved.
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#19
RE: Proof of God and Charlie Brown
No serious theist says that you can prove the existence of God. One can argue that there are arguments for the likely hood of some sought of higher being, that is all.

Quote:1. Charlie Brown built a doghouse for Snoopy.
2. He is a doghouse builder.
3. My neighbor has a doghouse.
4. The existence of this doghouse implies a doghouse builder.

Therefore:
5. Charlie Brown built my neighbor's doghouse.
6. Charlie Brown is real!

I dont see how you get to premise 5? A doghouse builder built the dog house, why not Bob the doghouse builder?
Theism argues that a builder had to create the universe, we just call that builder 'God' Wink
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.

You dont hate God, you hate the church game.

"God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine

Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer
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#20
RE: Proof of God and Charlie Brown
(October 7, 2010 at 7:44 pm)Shell B Wrote: I'll stop going off-topic and say I love Charlie Brown. Therefore, Charlie Brown exists.

Don't you know that Charlie Brown of course exists anyway? He's a cartoon character.
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