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Something To Think About - But We Won't Because We Never Do
June 28, 2017 at 8:33 pm
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...e-obsolete
Quote:How America’s Aircraft Carriers Could Become Obsolete
Modern missiles make them vulnerable. A $13 billion price tag makes them expensive. New technology may make them unnecessary.
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RE: Something To Think About - But We Won't Because We Never Do
June 28, 2017 at 9:17 pm
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This is something military thinkers have been thinking about for a while. Like any other weapons system, carriers too will face obsolescence. The advent of powerful and very precise ballistic missiles means that their future is sure clouded.
But Generals and Admirals usually fight the last war, not the next. Between submarines firing precision munitions and drones small enough to be launched from smaller platforms, the carrier is surely doomed to history's scrapheap. The question is only "when?"
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RE: Something To Think About - But We Won't Because We Never Do
June 28, 2017 at 9:30 pm
What war is the Congress fighting?
Quote:Despite these strategic shortcomings, there’s still a political reality to wrestle with: The Navy’s largest ships remain politically untouchable. The carrier retains a mystique throughout the military and Congress; it’s an 1,100-foot giant that’s become a uniquely American symbol of dominating military power. Among the fixed-wing carrier-equipped nations, Italy has two, while Brazil, China, France, India, and Russia each field one. The United Kingdom is building two, including the HMS Queen Elizabeth, which commenced sea trials this week.
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RE: Something To Think About - But We Won't Because We Never Do
June 28, 2017 at 10:19 pm
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-adding to the above, we have ten in service, one in reserve, and two under construction. We have more carriers...than the rest of the world combined.
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RE: Something To Think About - But We Won't Because We Never Do
June 28, 2017 at 10:32 pm
We are obsessed with power projection. How else can we fuck with people?
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RE: Something To Think About - But We Won't Because We Never Do
June 28, 2017 at 10:53 pm
(June 28, 2017 at 10:32 pm)Minimalist Wrote: We are obsessed with power projection. How else can we fuck with people?
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RE: Something To Think About - But We Won't Because We Never Do
June 28, 2017 at 11:07 pm
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(June 28, 2017 at 9:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote: What war is the Congress fighting?
Quote:Despite these strategic shortcomings, there’s still a political reality to wrestle with: The Navy’s largest ships remain politically untouchable. The carrier retains a mystique throughout the military and Congress; it’s an 1,100-foot giant that’s become a uniquely American symbol of dominating military power. Among the fixed-wing carrier-equipped nations, Italy has two, while Brazil, China, France, India, and Russia each field one. The United Kingdom is building two, including the HMS Queen Elizabeth, which commenced sea trials this week.
Duh -- they're fighting the war for votes delivered by getting jobs in their districts.
Anyone with half-a-brain knows that in the pork-barrel, the military is the biggest pig.
(June 28, 2017 at 10:19 pm)Khemikal Wrote: -adding to the above, we have ten in service, one in reserve, and two under construction. We have more carriers...than the rest of the world combined.
And not just that -- our carriers are far more capable, in aircraft stowage, cruise range (nuclear power, y'know -- only the French have one as well), and yes, doctrine, given our own experience over the last ninety years.
They'll be useful for sometime yet -- but at a point soon to be reached, the cost-benefit analysis will be in the red.
(June 28, 2017 at 10:32 pm)Minimalist Wrote: We are obsessed with power projection. How else can we fuck with people?
I'd suggest spray-painting their disco-balls matte-black.
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