Poor Kathy Griffin

[Brian37]

Winning is all that matters? No moron, winning is not all there is to life. If you think that is all there is to life, you are a very disturbed person and display the same lack of empathy for others he does. He is beyond a standard sociopath, far worse. He'd be far more tolerable if he were a average sociopath.

At best he only cares about his own family and close circle of supporters, outside that he does not give a fuck. The idiot dangled a distopian carrot in front of you and you stupidly fell for it.

Winning is largely what matter in life. Yes. I built my own business by winning and I have a book by Jack Welch sitting right here on my desk titled "WINNING". The strongest people in life are winners and those that aren't as strong look down on them for that. And even that is beautiful and comical to listen to.That's why I don't support welfare, paying for someone's birth control, and I am 100% perfectly okay with 22 million losing health insurance. If they did better in life and worked for what they wanted/needed, it wouldn't be an issue. They wouldn't be losing it because they would have already "EARNED" it. I don't have much sympathy for the lazy. I would much rather a portion of my earnings go to the insurance for myself, my family, and my employees, and their family rather than middle age people that aspire to work at the McDonald's drive. There's still welfare and social security though, so those that truly "NEED" it will be okay.

And he didn't really dangle much of a carrot in anyone's face. More so than not, he made it pretty clear what carrot others would not be getting. And that's perfectly okay in my book, and obviously okay with the folks that voted him into office.

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Dude. What the actual fuck, is wrong with you?

The crying and protests wont change anything from either side. May as well laugh... right?

NO you fucking moron, winning is not all there is to life.

Not even evolution claims that. 

Our species has a wide variety of attributes not just one. Our species can use force, and cheating to win and cruelty to win, that part is true. But we also have the attributes of nurture and empathy and compassion, and those work too. 

"Win" only means you won, it does not automatically make you moral. Hitler rose to power and won, and if he had not attacked Russia Stupidly he might have been able to keep his gains. His supporters thought he was doing the right thing they thought he was a "winner" too.

The Kim family won and took over North Korea. The Castro Family won and took over Cuba. Stalin won and took over Russia. Now they were winners too. So please don't blow fucking smoke up my ass and claim winning is all there is to life.

Winning with political demagoguery are the actions of dictators and despots and banana republics. In a 1rst world western open society our politicians cannot and should not act like that. Stop ignoring the fact that Trump is no longer a private citizen.

[The Grand Nudger]

You do realize that CJ is trolling the shit out of you, right?

[Thumpalumpacus]

Anyone that thinks we are looking at some sort of WW1 or 2 type dictatorship just because he speaks his mind is (at the very least) bordering on insane.

How about when he's working to undermine a free press? How about while he's trying to compose a list of folks who voted, and for which party?

Do you not see the threat to democracy that such actions represent?

[Brian37]

And another thing you tunnel vision jackass, NOBODY sane is or should begrudge you for starting a business. But here is what I can do that you cant seem to do. I got left a nice egg from my mom. I looked at my next years taxes and they will be big. But I am NOT complaining about that. Unlike you I know there are far more many who will never in their entire lives get that close.

I am happy that you own a business, but you are STILL not the only class in this country and YOU by yourself DO NOT get to decide OUR laws by yourself. And if you must know another reality about Hitler, he did NOT get rid of the private sector, he stole businesses from private citizens and gave them to his loyalists, those business STILL partook in the global market and STILL remained in private hands, but the private hands of his goons. "Capitalism" never left Germany, it just switched hands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany

Hitler also believed that individuals within a nation battled with each other for survival, and that such ruthless competition was good for the health of the nation, because it promoted "superior individuals" to higher positions in society.[23] At Berchtesgaden in July 1944, Hitler gave his final speech in front of an audience. Drafted by Albert Speer, this address emphasised the "self-responsibility of industry". After the war was won "private initiative of German business will experience its greatest moment". Hitler also expressed his belief in "the further development of humanity through the promotion of private initiative, in which alone I see the precondition for all real progress."[24] During the speech, “Hitler received scarcely any applause” from the industrialists which stunned both Speer and Hitler. Speer explained that the industrialist's disappointment was due to Hitler’s confusing and pragmatic way of thinking, which was “undermining all his promises to industry.

Hitler did not get rid of capitalism, he simply replicated crony capitalism.

Hitler valued "ruthless competition" yep, same "sucks to be you" Trump spews himself.

[Mystical]

Here is a woman who is visibly upset by the outlash of her Bloody Donald Trump Head.

As she has stated, Trump is the type of man who constantly verbally abuses others with threats and ridicule.  The man is a veritable menace, not the cute Dennis type, on Twitter and on camera, an unwanted disruption to human decency.  No, the man is not being honest.  An asshole jerkface is an asshole jerkface, and if an asshole jerkface cannot handle happening to him what he daily dishes out to others, then he needs to seriously evaluate not being an asshole jerkface.


http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news...ce-w491038

He's far less harsh than his haters are being towards him. This post (as well as many others) stands as a fine example.
Honestly; What would have happened to a person had they done the same thing with an Obama like head in a photo???  People would have lost their freaken minds....

Um.. 

Like this burning effigy of a lynched President Obama?

The video opens with two effigies of Obama hanging from nooses with a fake gravestone in the background that reads "OBAMA DEAD," as well as a church and an upside-down flag.
Following presentations from multiple speakers at the event, the video concludes with a white man in sunglasses using a propane torch to light the Obama effigies on fire, prompting a round of applause and cheers from the crowd.

Sasha Obama was 11-years-old when this display was published.

This group asserted their first amendment rights for political and artistic speech and they weren't alone.

Ted Nugent threatened to kill Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton during an onstage rant. Effigies of Obama were burned at a bar in Milwaukee; as well as hung from a tree at the University of Kentucky; a building in Plains, Ga.; and a noose in the front yard of a home in Moreno Valley, Calif.



In explaining the catalyst for his Obama effigy, one man from Fairfield, Ohio, said that he didn't want "an African American running the country."


Americans have a long history of citizens committing violence against president effigies to voice political dissent.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/335915-conservatives-forget-history-with-trump-effigy-outrage

Also Nugent's threats were death threats verbalized in a bar on specific targets--not during a professional publicity cover photo shoot for Kathys line of work. 

All the political experts agree her being interrogated by Secret Services is uncalled for, and un necessary. It's just Trump throwing his fat ass around, picking on anyone he can with whatever power he has, like always. Only this time his power is the United states government.

In the end I think Kathy will be fine. No one with a brain thinks she meant anything other than satire.

[henryp]

If you have a job, particularly a job in the public eye, in which your behavior can financially impact your employers business, you just can't do stuff like Kathy Griffen did anymore. The idiotic standard has been set. If you have a strong opinion, people that disagree with you will boycott everything associated with you. So unless you are in some untouchable position, which is incredibly rare, then you have to keep your head down. Almost every person that says or does something viewed as extreme is at risk of losing their job. That's America now.

Ted Nugent is definitely worse. But Ted Nugent plays old timey rock in the south. The entire state of New York boycotting Nugent isn't going to keep him from selling out Shitsville County Stadium in Bumfuck, Mississippi. He's one of those lucky people who are in a position where people can't hurt him.

Trump ran his own business, and it was his campaign, and now it's his presidency. He's got Fuck you money. There's no viable threat that forces him to behave any way other than how he feels like it.

I think the real sad thing about the Kathy Griffen thing, is that nobody gives a shit in terms of supporting what she did. Holding up Trumps severed head doesn't accomplish anything. There aren't people anxiously waiting on a signal from the lady on E! who makes fun of people for a living to start the revolution. She did it. She got fired. And now she's sad. For nothing.

As for secret service, I think that's par for the course. The secret service also opened an investigation in Ted Nugent's case as well.

[Mystical]

I read that wrong. Ted Nugent was indeed performing when he made those statements so fair enough. That said.. I agree wallym she knew it was a risk, she took the risk, I don't feel bad for her but I don't think she's "ruined", either. Maybe feeling a little Red lettered at the moment, but hey that's the line of work she's chosen to pursue.

I do disagree though that her photo shoot is Secret Service worthy whatsoever. And I've seen political analysts say the same thing. A statement portrait made with a group of professionals in the privacy of her own home vs a drunk cowboy on stage inciting violence with personal death threats at the sitting president and Secretary, seem different to me. One is commentary " art", and the other could possibly be taken seriously as a threat.

[Brian37]

If you have a job, particularly a job in the public eye, in which your behavior can financially impact your employers business, you just can't do stuff like Kathy Griffen did anymore.  The idiotic standard has been set.  If you have a strong opinion, people that disagree with you will boycott everything associated with you.  So unless you are in some untouchable position, which is incredibly rare, then you have to keep your head down.  Almost every person that says or does something viewed as extreme is at risk of losing their job.  That's America now.

Ted Nugent is definitely worse.  But Ted Nugent plays old timey rock in the south.  The entire state of New York boycotting Nugent isn't going to keep him from selling out Shitsville County Stadium in Bumfuck, Mississippi.  He's one of those lucky people who are in a position where people can't hurt him.

Trump ran his own business, and it was his campaign, and now it's his presidency.  He's got Fuck you money.  There's no viable threat that forces him to behave any way other than how he feels like it.

I think the real sad thing about the Kathy Griffen thing, is that nobody gives a shit in terms of supporting what she did.  Holding up Trumps severed head doesn't accomplish anything.  There aren't people anxiously waiting on a signal from the lady on E! who makes fun of people for a living to start the revolution.  She did it.  She got fired.  And now she's sad.  For nothing.

As for secret service, I think that's par for the course.  The secret service also opened an investigation in Ted Nugent's case as well.

I give a shit about what she did, because the right took what she did out of context in any case and in doing that ignored 8 years of threats to Obama. 

And as far as "Trump has fuck you money" and "that is the way it is now", no, being that way most certainly does not mean it should stay that way. If the mantra is "nobody is above the law" then that shit does not cut it.

For far too long the top have gotten away with murder, and when they do get in trouble, the next crop of CEOS flood dark money into politics to make what was prior illegal, legal. In Iceland for example when the market crashed, they didn't simply fine the banks or housing industry, they threw those fuckers in prison and bailed out the homeowners, which is THE RIGHT THING.

Right now is still wrong. Bernie Maddoff went to prison for ripping off the rich. Hobby Lobby gets a fine for steeling antiquities of world history. Trump stiffs university investors and only is forced to pay back part of it. If you or I pulled the same crap it would be called a multi level marketing scam and we would go to prison.

If you look up the amount of oil spills since 2000 it is insane, but because big oil owns the GOP the EPA cant do it's job.  Duke Energy dumps coal ash in our rivers and they only get a fine. GENEX get dumped in our rivers and nobody will go to prison for it.

I want to know from anyone reading this, why they think it is OK for business owners at that level to put the public in danger and get away with it? Why was it ok for Wall Street to create a bank/car/and housing bubble and few get into any serious trouble outside of a fine?

NO, I am tired of assholes like Trump thinking it is ok to shit on those bellow them. 

I am not against the private sector. I am simply fucking tired of one class thinking it owns everything and should be the only class who has a say in how OUR laws are written.

Trump's behavior ALONE makes him unfit. Insulting the intel community ALONE makes him unfit. But even outside him being in office, just on his business carrier alone, if we pulled the same shit we'd go to prison. A rich bully is still a bully.

The problem with today's global economy is that it is like a cheetah, predatory, quick but has no long term energy. You wont get rid of globalization, nor the private sector. But the global rich are not thinking of competition in healthy supply and demand, but in terms of competing to grow just to grow. They are competing for shareholders and now in reality that really makes our global economy really nothing more than a giant casino.

If our species is to reduce conflict the global rich have to make business about problem solving, in reducing conflict, in providing stability for more. We are way past the days where "big just to be big" matters.

[Secular Elf]

Presumably they'd have known it wasn't actually Trump's head .. unless working for the guy is rubbing off.

Please try not to use "Trump" and "rubbing off" in the same sentence

*shudders*

Hmmmm..."Rubbing off", or "rubbed out"...*gestures weighing a balance with both hands*

[Amarok]

Jesus has this woman not suffered enough . You would think she fire bombed a children's hospital or something. It amazes me the right will use free speech as a way to defend every piece of alt right garbage . But when comedian attacks there lord and savior all of a sudden the rules change