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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 15, 2017 at 1:29 am
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(July 14, 2017 at 8:42 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (July 11, 2017 at 5:08 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
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Did not Jesus give Peter the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven? When the people asked Peter essentially how to get to Heaven, he told them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, THAT IS THE KEY!
When Paul met those that were baptized by John the Baptist they had to be re-baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.
Now find me one place in the Bible where anyone was baptized under the titles of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit...
If you can't then you must acknowledge that to baptize in that manner is contrary to scripture.
Where's the contradiction?
"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. - Revelation 1:8"
Remember, Alpha and Omega is a 14th Century word combination = http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allo...arch=alpha
[url=http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=omega]http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=omega[/url
Consequently, you may not be able to find that phrase in a 8th Century Bible. I don't get what point you are trying to make, seeing how the new testament was originally written in Greek.
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/1-8.htm
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 15, 2017 at 2:22 am
(July 15, 2017 at 1:29 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (July 14, 2017 at 8:42 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. - Revelation 1:8"
Remember, Alpha and Omega is a 14th Century word combination = http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allo...arch=alpha
[url=http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=omega]http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=omega[/url
Consequently, you may not be able to find that phrase in a 8th Century Bible. I don't get what point you are trying to make, seeing how the new testament was originally written in Greek.
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/1-8.htm
The original Bible was written in Latin. All of the Greek language Bibles are translations. And your Greek text is in Modern Greek.
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 15, 2017 at 7:15 am
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2017 at 7:16 am by mordant.)
(July 6, 2017 at 7:17 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Contrast this with Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Coptic Christianity and the Protestant Armenian school of thought that says that a person can sin to the point that he/she forfeits eternal life. It also contrasts with the doctrine of Universal Reconciliation (UR), or apokatastasis which states that all men will eventually be saved. Unlike "once saved always saved" this theological notion has roots back much further but has been a minority position and more of an expressed hope than a guarantee until the rise if Christian Universalism in the 19th century.
It also contrasts with the annihilationism (e.g., modern Anglicans, Christadelphians, Seventh Day Adventists) who state that the unsaved simply cease to exist at death, that the unregenerate are simply destroyed, not sent to eternal perdition.
(July 15, 2017 at 2:22 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The original Bible was written in Latin. All of the Greek language Bibles are translations. And your Greek text is in Modern Greek. The original manuscripts of the OT are in Hebrew, the NT in Greek. The Latin Vulgate was an early translation from those originals. You have it exactly backwards. Where did you get such a notion?
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 15, 2017 at 8:05 am
That's true WOG. Normal Greek there.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 15, 2017 at 8:08 am
No matter in which language the bible was originally written, I think we can all agree that it has been translated so many times that the original meaning of what the book was supposed to convey is most likely lost in translation.
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 15, 2017 at 8:10 am
(July 15, 2017 at 1:29 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (July 14, 2017 at 8:42 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. - Revelation 1:8"
Remember, Alpha and Omega is a 14th Century word combination = http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allo...arch=alpha
[url=http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=omega]http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=omega[/url
Consequently, you may not be able to find that phrase in a 8th Century Bible. I don't get what point you are trying to make, seeing how the new testament was originally written in Greek.
http://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/1-8.htm
Someone could translate the Bible in Klingon tomorrow and it still would not make magic babies with super powers true. How about YOU consider that it is a book of mythology and none of the fantastic claims were ever true, but mere stories humans wrote and sold to market a religion?
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 15, 2017 at 9:10 am
Cake by the Ocean ??
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 15, 2017 at 9:19 am
(July 15, 2017 at 8:05 am)ignoramus Wrote: That's true WOG. Normal Greek there.
Which is irrelevant to the point. "Alpha" and "Omega" have always been part of that scripture and was not a later addition as WoG implied.
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 15, 2017 at 9:32 am
Out of sight, out of mind = Invisible idiot.
{citing a famous translation fail}
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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RE: Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?
July 15, 2017 at 9:35 am
(July 15, 2017 at 9:19 am)Huggy74 Wrote: (July 15, 2017 at 8:05 am)ignoramus Wrote: That's true WOG. Normal Greek there.
Which is irrelevant to the point. "Alpha" and "Omega" have always been part of that scripture and was not a later addition as WoG implied.
Also part of the movie "Revenge Of The Nerds" so?
Still no such thing as magic babies with super powers.
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