Can a Chrisitan lose his/her salvation?

[Harry Nevis]

Yeah,and you have the inside track.

Let me know how you're sure you're not just talking to yourself.

I hace A/S/K'd, silence.

Your manual fixes a different motor, the one you own and nobody else wants, the insurance is too high and the monthly payments don't add up.

You are just a salesman with an unwanted product. The market decides.

A/S/K can never be used in the 'pastense' and have one 'done it right.'

You can ask

You can seek both in past tense but one can not knock 'pastence' and say he did it according to luke 11.

Why?

Because it's a process. Asking seeking has one build a house of faith, knocking has God test that faith. (Send the wind and rain to test the house and it's foundation) if you are not building the house of faith on the God/Rock/truth of who God is, your faith will fall as there are no other God's to help you.

Eventually if keep knocking what you have built/understand will have be proven true, and God will send the winds and rain that part of your belief system will be held true. and if you keep building more and more of what you understand will be proved to be true. Till one day IF God stood in front of you, you would be able to recognize Him.



That is the only reason you do not see God now. you have no idea what to look for, and when you do find Him you dismiss Him.

Yeah, just keep scrubbing at that brain, and soon you'll get all those wrinkles out.  Worked for Drippy.

[Cyberman]

I hace A/S/K'd, silence.

See, this is the problem. The silence is purely because you did it wrong, or you gave up too soon, or couldn't/didn't want to get an answer. A/S/K always works; the proof that it does is that different people get completely different results, including none at all. Glory!

[Drich]

Absolutely. Heaven is the state of being when your heart is completely pure. If you have darkness in your heart you will be in Purgatory until you have reached the state of perfect grace. Hell is when you have no will to reach it, and so you never do (hence why we say Hell is permanent).

So of course, I believe Hell/Purgatory can happen to anyone regardless of religious title. It just depends on what's in your heart.

A lot of Catholics don't believe in Purgatory; they consider it to be a medieval myth.  I know that you'll quote the CCC on this, but Francis is going to revise that here soon, and so, Purgatory is likely to go the route that the Limbo of the Children went.

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Because again Christ decideds who is saved and who is not. not blind tradition and ceremony.

This sounds a lot like high Calvinism where Calvin taught that some individuals who perish in infancy were predestined to life eternal while others were predestined to perdition.

There are 5 pillars to Calvinism I agree with 2 I'm hardly a Calvinists.
http://www.calvinistcorner.com/tulip.htm

1/2 of number one and 1/2 of 2. Because that is all that is consistent with a contextual reading. Calvinism is a hoge podge of verses fragments compiled to form a cherry picked religion.

I say Jesus makes the choice of who is and is not, because that is what the bible says. and it is not based on what we say but our hearts. Calvin leaves out that bit.

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I hace A/S/K'd, silence.

See, this is the problem. The silence is purely because you did it wrong, or you gave up too soon, or couldn't/didn't want to get an answer. A/S/K always works; the proof that it does is that different people get completely different results, including none at all. Glory!

I have yet to meet one person who followed the example and get nothing at all. Not one. I have meet many people who only do the first two and get nothing all the time. What do any of you expect if God says do 123 and you get ABC, if you only do 1 and 2 but not three?

[Cyberman]

On the contrary, you've been presented with numerous people who followed your method and got nothing. Your go-to response is exactly what I said it would be.

[vorlon13]

And would (actual) Salvation have accrued if the potential believer possessed significant erroneous ideas about Jesus ??

For instance, someone watching Last Temptation of Christ and being swayed that Jesus more plausibly existed as a married man prior to His crucifixion, would belief in that version of Jesus confer Salvation ??

[Silver]

And would (actual) Salvation have accrued if the potential believer possessed significant erroneous ideas about Jesus ??

For instance, someone watching Last Temptation of Christ and being swayed that Jesus more plausibly existed as a married man prior to His crucifixion, would belief in that version of Jesus confer Salvation ??

Only Jesus knows.

[vorlon13]

And would (actual) Salvation have accrued if the potential believer possessed significant erroneous ideas about Jesus ??

For instance, someone watching Last Temptation of Christ and being swayed that Jesus more plausibly existed as a married man prior to His crucifixion, would belief in that version of Jesus confer Salvation ??

Only Jesus knows.

Gee.

Kinda sux to not know for sure.

[Minimalist]

No matter in which language the bible was originally written, I think we can all agree that it has been translated so many times that the original meaning of what the book was supposed to convey is most likely lost in translation.

How could a "god" allow that to happen?  Seems like a pretty shitty attitude for a "god" to have, doesn't it?

[GoneGuy]

Basically I was a Christian, or at least I thought I was. I kept on sinning and just like it says if you blaspheme the Holy spirit its unforgivable. I ignored his promptings for years and then out of nowhere something in me was different. Literally in an instant. I have been separated from Gods presence here on earth and I cant even describe what it's like, but let me tell you that He loves everyone very much. Its like I don't exist anymore. My spirit's GONE. dead. I'm literally just existing in the flesh with no Love in me. I know I'm going to hell, and its just like the bible says those who reject him will be aware of their coming judgement. I cant stress it enough how important it is to Accept Jesus. Having no soul is like complete apathy, but not really because I cant feel anything. I just process everything around me. No enjoyment, satisfaction, nothing good. Just like the bible says everything good comes from God and it is so hard to describe what having no love, faith, or hope in you at all is like. I just exist, but I don't. I'm just waiting, and I'm aware that I'm going to hell, but it doesn't bother me, because only through love can you truly care about anything. All that's in my heart is wickidness. You know how when you think about past memories or do things you like and you get this good feeling, I have nothing. The dead know nothing. Its indescribable. All I can say is I cant stress enough how much Jesus loves all of you, and that he accepts you just how you are right now. If you can Love at all even a tiny bit, that's all he needs. Trust me when I say anything in this life is nothing compared to what will be waiting for you in heaven. Its like living completely in the moment, but with not awareness of myself, I know I exist, but I have no intuition anymore at all, living just off of what I see. Sounds good, but trust me life without hope, faith, and Love is not Life.

[Minimalist]

I know I'm going to hell,

No, you're not.  It's a fucking fairy tale to scare idiots.  Now get over it, go get laid, and fucking relax.

Oh, and Fuck The Holy Spirit right up the ass!