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1964 Penzias/Wilson and Higgs: Coincidence? Confluent Knowledge?
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RE: 1964 Penzias/Wilson and Higgs: Coincidence? Confluent Knowledge?
the effects were all done the 'hard way'. Good to watch just from that aspect alone.

Kubrick also saved a step in the photography/editing/printing for distribution process (don't recall the details) and the finished product looks great. Only with the advent of HD do a few of the effects start to show their age.

For instance, the 'floating pen' is stuck to a sheet of glass that is rotated in front of the camera. No wires, LOL, but in HD, some claim the glass isn't entirely invisible.

As for walking on the walls and ceilings, Kubrick had constructed some of the largest rotating set pieces in movie history.

Also, 2001 lost out for a costuming Oscar to Planet of the Apes as everyone thought 2001 used real monkeys . . . .
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RE: 1964 Penzias/Wilson and Higgs: Coincidence? Confluent Knowledge?
(July 8, 2017 at 4:18 pm)Alex K Wrote: Iirc, Penzias and Wilson were not actually performing the measurements in order to discover the CMB, but to reduce the noise of their antenna?
That's true. That's where the thing with the pigeon poop comes in. The noise continued even after they removed it, then a colleague showed them some papers and they said you know what, this isn't noise we're dealing with. It's this cosmic background.

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RE: 1964 Penzias/Wilson and Higgs: Coincidence? Confluent Knowledge?
(July 8, 2017 at 5:31 pm)Succubus Wrote: 2001 a space odyssey is on the telly tonight. I haven't seen it in years and I suspect it's a bit dated. Should I watch it?

Yes, and I make this prediction:



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RE: 1964 Penzias/Wilson and Higgs: Coincidence? Confluent Knowledge?
(July 8, 2017 at 7:48 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(July 8, 2017 at 5:31 pm)Succubus Wrote: 2001 a space odyssey is on the telly tonight. I haven't seen it in years and I suspect it's a bit dated. Should I watch it?

Yes, and I make this prediction:

A squeal?  Big Grin

(July 8, 2017 at 5:54 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: the effects were all done the 'hard way'.  Good to watch just from that aspect alone.

Kubrick also saved a step in the photography/editing/printing for distribution process (don't recall the details) and the finished product looks great.  Only with the advent of HD do a few of the effects start to show their age.

For instance, the 'floating pen' is stuck to a sheet of glass that is rotated in front of the camera.  No wires, LOL, but in HD, some claim the glass isn't entirely invisible.

As for walking on the walls and ceilings, Kubrick had constructed some of the largest rotating set pieces in movie history.

Also, 2001 lost out for a costuming Oscar to Planet of the Apes as everyone thought 2001 used real monkeys . . . .

One thing I remembered correctly, it's very s-l-o-w.
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RE: 1964 Penzias/Wilson and Higgs: Coincidence? Confluent Knowledge?
the pacing is indeed s l o w

Still, at the time it was made, nothing really to compare it too. Alien was 10 years in the future . . . .
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RE: 1964 Penzias/Wilson and Higgs: Coincidence? Confluent Knowledge?
(July 8, 2017 at 9:01 pm)Succubus Wrote:
(July 8, 2017 at 7:48 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Yes, and I make this prediction:

A squeal?  Big Grin

Already been made. It's was released in 1985 and called 2011. It is to the 2001 what Aliens was to Alien.
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