The Official "Damned Trump" Thread

[The Grand Nudger]

You think we're so innocent? The US has killers too.

Also used by the president, to deflect from the nasty shit dictators do. His Real Dad Vlad, specifically.

In mere reality, we help people all over the globe. The US has been the most powerful force for good the world has ever seen. That, Chad, is how we ended up with all this geopolitical power. Power that we need to survive, that you..whether you realize it or not, directly benefit from in your day to day life. It doesn't mean that we're angels, or that every idea we have is a good one. Still, you shouldn't let people who are very much against your own interests gaslight you into letting their propaganda fall from your mouth.

No regime change wars my ass. No regime change wars -is- a regime change, from the current world order, with the US and UN and international law and geneva conventions and representative government at the head, to...something else...whatever dream that the poor, put on despots of the world have failed to achieve.

[Chad32]

I would never claim that America doesn't have problems. Hell, that's part of the reason why we should get out of everyone else's business. Yeah, we're the ones who need a regime change. Screaming about Iran nuclear weapons, while we pull out of the Iran deal that other European countries are in, while we remain the only country who has ever attacked another country with a nuke. Saudi Arabia is committing genocide in Yemen, and we're blockading it. We're keeping food and medicine from entering countries. We're not over there to help our fellow man. were in countries confiscating a fuel resource that we probably should have bypassed by now.

Hell, we're still using coal. Coal! The coal jobs are leaving? Gee, wonder why. Maybe we should replace them with clean energy at some point.

Yeah. Tens of billions going into an already bloated military, while people ask how could we ever find the money for universal healthcare?

We're already in like seven or eight different wars, and damn it if we're not trying to go to war with Iran and Venezuela too. Our country freaked the fuck out when Russia put missiles in Cuba, but now we've got drones flying over countries, and ground troops securing oil fields.

This is a sore spot for me. I'm certainly not going to bash someone who says let's pull our troops out and just talk to leaders like Human beings, and maybe we can come to a civilized agreement, instead of arming terrorist groups and toppling leaders.

[The Grand Nudger]

Well, leave that to me. For all of our problems, I absolutely will bash potentates who gas their own people and the US politicians who excuse them with some both-sides-ing bullshit....and then sell that to you as "no regime change wars".......

There will never be a "civil agreement" between us and people who don't see people as people. That's just a way to cover your eyes and ears, plug your nose, and let it go down.

[GUBU]

a giant leftist movement on our hands.

So ye've finally joined the rest of the world where one of the two political axes is explicitly for the people. That took a while.

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Gabbard's only stance on war is that we shouldn't help people in desperate need, unless they're christian.  Show her a group of muslims and she's locked and loaded, ready to kill, hooah!  She's running for the coveted trumpist-turned-blue vote, lol.

I honestly have no idea what the dems are up to with this shit.

I think Tulsi's position on war is that she's against them unless Putain oders her not to be. She's the only pol more under his thumb than Dumbfuck.

[Deesse23]

Had Trump not made it into the WH he would have just blamed Hillary and moved on with his miserable, soul-sucking life.

Instead he is in the WH - still bitching about Hillary - and we have to witness every dumbass move and tweet of his miserable, soul-sucking life.

Did you ever consider applying for the job of a political commentator? 

[Chad32]

a giant leftist movement on our hands.

So ye've finally joined the rest of the world where one of the two political axes is explicitly for the people. That took a while.

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Gabbard's only stance on war is that we shouldn't help people in desperate need, unless they're christian.  Show her a group of muslims and she's locked and loaded, ready to kill, hooah!  She's running for the coveted trumpist-turned-blue vote, lol.

I honestly have no idea what the dems are up to with this shit.

I think Tulsi's position on war is that she's against them unless Putain oders her not to be.  She's the only pol more  under his thumb than Dumbfuck.

Now she's a Putin puppet too? How exactly? Yeah, I'm sure Putin probably agrees we shouldn't be doing a lot of what we're doing. Him and a bunch of other reasonable world leaders. This is getting into "Hitler ate sugar" levels of dumb.

[The Grand Nudger]

What do you mean "now"? As soon as she announced her candidacy russian state tv started promoting her hard. Her positions on critical issues align with his interests. Naturally, they're fluffing her while simultaneously insisting that everyone who isn't in the tank for despots just drop out. The kremlin can, does, and will continue to use that to mainstream those positions within the democratic party.

To the point that otherwise sane people will call them "reasonable".

[Chad32]

All I can say is, I agree that the military needs toning down, hard, and if things escalate to war with Russia, we'll probably have WW3 on our hands. So yeah, I like Tulsi. If other countries like her too, then all the better. Maybe we can actually have fewer wars in the future if that happens. That sounds like a net gain to me.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

All I can say is, I agree that the military needs toning down, hard, and if things escalate to war with Russia, we'll probably have WW3 on our hands. So yeah, I like Tulsi. If other countries like her too, then all the better. Maybe we can actually have fewer wars in the future if that happens. That sounds like a net gain to me.

Well, you could hardly have more wars.  The US is the most frequently warring State since Rome collapsed like a flan in a cupboard.

Boru

[Chad32]

Yeah, it looks like we're heading down like Rome too. Pumping everything into the military, and subsidies to the rich, while the country burns.