RE: Bibles in Hotel Rooms
October 13, 2010 at 10:01 am
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2010 at 10:36 am by Gilligan.)
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Good work, Little Buddy
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Bibles in Hotel Rooms
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RE: Bibles in Hotel Rooms
October 13, 2010 at 10:01 am
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2010 at 10:36 am by Gilligan.)
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Good work, Little Buddy (October 13, 2010 at 10:01 am)Gilligan Wrote: At that time, Romania was under the Communist regime. So what? This does nothing to support your contention that Stalin killed people because of atheism.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems? RE: Bibles in Hotel Rooms
October 13, 2010 at 11:17 am
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(October 13, 2010 at 11:14 am)Thor Wrote:(October 13, 2010 at 10:01 am)Gilligan Wrote: At that time, Romania was under the Communist regime. If it wasn't because of atheism, why did Wurmbrand undergo "Christianity is Stupid" brainwashing for seventeen hours a day for weeks as in the YouTube video above? Not only was he imprisoned, but tortured as well. I know Stalin wasn't the leader of Romania, but that country was under the same system.
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October 13, 2010 at 11:47 am
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(October 13, 2010 at 8:04 am)solja247 Wrote: Um beacuse its the hotels choice? Yes, it is the hotel's choice. And it's discriminatory. Not to mention presumptuous. It's also a subtle way to promote a particular religion. All of which are reasons that cause me to object. (October 13, 2010 at 11:17 am)Gilligan Wrote:(October 13, 2010 at 11:14 am)Thor Wrote:(October 13, 2010 at 10:01 am)Gilligan Wrote: At that time, Romania was under the Communist regime. So you start off by telling us that Stalin killed people because of atheism. When we shoot that down, you bring up the story of ONE GUY who was imprisoned (not killed) in ROMANIA (not the Soviet Union). And you try to connect this to Stalin by saying Romania "was under the same system". Ugh. Show me a war that was fought because atheists were trying to spread their message. Show me where atheists burned believers at the stake. Show me where atheists accused others of "witchcraft" and hanged people.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems? Quote:Um beacuse its the hotels choice? Is it? Or are they pressured by xtian groups who think they have a right to shove their bullshit down everyone elses throats? Can you imagine the outcry if Hilton or Marriott announced they were removing the fucking bibles from the rooms. You phony xtian shits would whine about how you are being "persecuted" again. (October 13, 2010 at 11:17 am)Gilligan Wrote:(October 13, 2010 at 11:14 am)Thor Wrote:(October 13, 2010 at 10:01 am)Gilligan Wrote: At that time, Romania was under the Communist regime. Stalin subjucated religion because it was a rival for his power not because of atheism. By the way Stalin once trained to become a priest. Quote:Sent by his mother to the seminary in Tiflis (now Tbilisi), the capital of Georgia, to study to become a priest, the young Stalin never completed his education, and was instead soon completely drawn into the city's active revolutionary circles You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. RE: Bibles in Hotel Rooms
October 13, 2010 at 1:54 pm
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2010 at 2:02 pm by Anomalocaris.)
1. Communism is not a plauralistic form of government. It does not booker active opposition to it and its programs in any form, whether that opposition is from the intelligentia, the peasantry, the labor union, rival political parties, or the Church. A great part of the victims of communist regime in fact consist of atheists who disagree politically with communists. So let the Christians not play for particular sympathy.
2. The hostility between communists and main stream Christian clergy was not one sided, nor was it just between Christian church and the radical communists. Before anyone has heard of communists, mainstream Christian churchs was vehemently hostile against the social changes promoted by the Social democrates, and in many countries the church actively aided the secret police in rounding up and arresting social democrates. Only later did fractions of Social Democrates radicalized into outright atheistic communists. So the hostility is almost hereditary and by no means one purely of unincited oppression by the communists. In the end, the changes advocated by the Social democrats which the church opposed with such vigor, female sufferage, limited work week, paid holidays, disability insurance, became accepted as basis for civilized societies. Agents of god offered no explanation why they thought differently a century ago. Quote:Sent by his mother to the seminary in Tiflis (now Tbilisi), the capital of Georgia, to study to become a priest, the young Stalin never completed his education Probably got his asshole stretched by the holy perverts. No wonder he despised them. BTW, the French Revolution went after the church with a vengeance, too. The reason of course was the the church was a full partner in the suppression of the people and deserved to lose every head they lost. It had nothing to do with "religion" and every thing to do with power. As Jefferson sagely noted. Quote:In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. Jefferson knew the situation in France but it was equally true of Czarist Russia. RE: Bibles in Hotel Rooms
October 13, 2010 at 6:17 pm
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2010 at 6:18 pm by solja247.)
Quote:Yes, it is the hotel's choice. And it's discriminatory. Not to mention presumptuous. It's also a subtle way to promote a particular religion. All of which are reasons that cause me to object. How is it? Quote:Can you imagine the outcry if Hilton or Marriott announced they were removing the fucking bibles from the rooms. You phony xtian shits would whine about how you are being "persecuted" again. I couldnt care less mate. I think its supid that atheists hate the Bible though, any other book would be ok. Perhaps we should put the God dellusion in there? then there would be no complaints
Its ok to have doubt, just dont let that doubt become the answers.
You dont hate God, you hate the church game. "God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand you have failed." Saint Augustine Your mind works very simply: you are either trying to find out what are God's laws in order to follow them; or you are trying to outsmart Him. -Martin H. Fischer RE: Bibles in Hotel Rooms
October 13, 2010 at 7:09 pm
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Quote:I couldnt care less mate. I think its supid that atheists hate the Bible though, any other book would be ok. As usual, Sol, you're wrong. The koran, the Book of Mormon, The Book of the Dead, the Avesta, the Vedas, etc., etc., are all equally stupid. I would object to them as well but no one puts them in hotels. Quote:Perhaps we should put the God dellusion in there? then there would be no complaints At least it would be something worth reading. Then again, who goes to a hotel to read? |
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