viewing stolen nude photos

[Catholic_Lady]

In case my post got misunderstood, I wasn't saying that "men will be men" or whatever. I was just saying that this mentality still exists in our culture, and I was criticizing it. Men are capable of resisting a tempting situation and choosing to act morally. Saying "men will be men" is not giving men any credit as a civilized being. I don't like the low standard society still has on men when it comes to sexuality.

And this is why I think there is so much victim blaming on women when it comes to things like sexual assault, and on a lower level, nude photos being stolen.

[Edwardo Piet]

Anyone who thinks that any part of the web is "secure" is simply deluding themselves.  If you must take nude photos of yourself copy them to a flash drive and wear them on a chain around your neck.

I think this is victim blaming.

Yep. I get sick of this crap about thinking something is okay because the victim should know better. That 'because' is a total non-sequitur. It doesn't matter whether someone should know better or is careless or not, it doesn't make it right and it doesn't make it the victim's fault. If someone victimizes themselves and people take advantage of that it doesn't make it okay for them to be exploited and it doesn't make them less of a victim. Being foolish and careless and naive and easier to exploit doesn't make it okay.

And, again, the fact that it's not illegal doesn't change the fact that it's unethical and someone can be a victim of a legal immoral act.

TL;DR: If you are foolish and careless and naive and you put yourself in a position where it's unrealistic to think that you wouldn't be exploited in that situation it doesn't mean that it's unreasonable to think that you shouldn't be exploited in that situation.

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I don't bother with celebrity nude photos.  There's plenty of free porn online to not get caught up with that.

Yes lol. Been enjoying free clips of the movie "Tight Anal Sluts" lately

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It would be unethical to look for them, or look at them (at length) if you stumbled across them.

Of course it is naive to take nude pics of ones self and not protect them better, but it IS victim blaming to say it is therefore her fault, or is therefore ok to look.  Lots of people do stupid things every day, that does not make victimizing those people (even if you didn't steal the pics, but instead spread them around, or just look, it is still a kind of victimization) acceptable.

^^

[brewer]

That is true. Though I'd argue that leaving your car running, unlocked, and unattended is much more exposing than taking a naked photo of yourself in the privacy of your home on your personal cell phone. I don't think they're really on the same level. I'd say getting your phone hacked and your pictures stolen is on the same level as getting your house broken into and robbed. And when that happens, no one says "well, they should have had an alarm system/better security."

Geek help for a non geek please. I thought the cloud was hacked not the phone, which is it? Are all photos taken on a phone automatically uploaded to the cloud? Can that function be disabled? 

If the cloud was hacked and the upload can be blocked and was not, what then. I know, still stealing. Maybe like leaving the car running and locked but with a window open?

[SteelCurtain]

Geek help for a non geek please. I thought the cloud was hacked not the phone, which is it? Are all photos taken on a phone automatically uploaded to the cloud? Can that function be disabled? 

If the cloud was hacked and the upload can be blocked and was not, what then. I know, still stealing. Maybe like leaving the car running and locked but with a window open?

She took the pictures on her phone, and the pictures were uploaded to the cloud. I believe she was phished for her login credentials, and her cloud was then accessed.

The cloud is still encrypted and password protected, most people store a lot of their private data there. Phishing is a way that hackers use to get people to give up their login information.

A lot of times it is an email saying that your cloud has been compromised, that you need to log in to confirm your identity. They then link to a page that looks exactly like the iCloud login page, and you proceed to just give them your login credentials. Then, they don't even need to hack anything per se, they just log right in until you change your password.

EDIT: If you want to listen to something that will open your eyes about phishing while being funny and entertaining at the same time, give this a go: (one of my favorite podcasts, btw)
https://gimletmedia.com/episode/97-what-...s-phished/

[Catholic_Lady]

I can't believe this guy is only getting 9 months.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2703520/ed...oud-gmail/

This isn't just theft, it's a form of sexual assault.

[FFaith]

I'd say these celebs putting these pics up on the cloud can be seen as consent in a way, so no, I don't feel bad.

[pocaracas]

SC and Kernel... should we do "what men are gonna do"?... or go on being our dumb selves?  

Or... recognize that we can think about how our actions will affect others before we do them. At its root, this is the backlash against PC culture. The idea that I should be required to consider my actions before I act.

Everyone should consider their actions prior to carrying them out... it's called being an adult.

My question was more on the lines of, those men who do not give in to that "men are gonna do what they do" mentality should expect most women around them to assume that they are those who "do what men are gonna do".
What can we do? How can it be shown to these people that such assumption is grossly misplaced?

[SteelCurtain]

I'd say these celebs putting these pics up on the cloud can be seen as consent in a way, so no, I don't feel bad.

Consent. By putting pictures up in a password protected, encrypted online vault, you believe that is them giving you permission to take the files from them.

Or are you just a troll? Methinks you're just a garden troll.

[Catholic_Lady]

I'd say these celebs putting these pics up on the cloud can be seen as consent in a way, so no, I don't feel bad.

Lol

[SteelCurtain]

My question was more on the lines of, those men who do not give in to that "men are gonna do what they do" mentality should expect most women around them to assume that they are those who "do what men are gonna do".
What can we do? How can it be shown to these people that such assumption is grossly misplaced?

We can do it with our actions. I believe anyone who knows me for any amount of time would be pretty sure I'm not one of those guys. I don't announce it to them. To me, with the little insidious shit that women have to consider with most of their actions every day --- (if I raise my voice at my employees, will they just see me as a bitch?, how do I tell my boss that I should make as much as this dude who demonstrably does less?, do these people see me as a spinster because I'm not married in my 30s?, etc etc etc) --- if I have to deal with some of the slack from typical asshole douches every day, I can handle that.