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Pope Takes A Crack At Fucking Over The WLB
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How can an 'ultraconservative' Catholic cotton to a twice divorced and thrice married adulterer ??
What am I not getting here ?? The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
Though I have been an atheist for many years now I was, like many, raised in the christian religion. Lately I have begun to wonder if there will be an American version of Dietrich Bonhoeffer; at least one semi-well-know christian leader who will challenge the American christians who worship and support the Der Trumpster. Maybe the time for such has past, with virtually every flavor of christian ideology now too deeply corrupted to engender any real opposition to greed and selfishness.
And it is an open question; if such a person should step up and bring with them a sizable contingent of like minded believers, would those of us who are already jaded when it come to anything religious be too skeptical to accept them as allies when it comes to opposing Trump and the Republican Party? 
We've seen plainly worded (but apparently inconvenient) Bible verses explained as meaning the exact opposite of what they (seem) to say here more than once.
I guess no surprise if even the most pious and obedient Christians can nevertheless slither up to a remarkable apostate and claim he's the Second Coming. The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
How does an eternal and unchanging God inspire such um . . . .
uh . . . flexibility in his devout followers ?? The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
 (August 2, 2017 at 9:27 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: How does an eternal and unchanging God inspire such um . . . . It was that sort of hypocrisy visible to my 11 year old self that started the long road to atheism. Given the shit the RCC does even today, it's a wonder their heads don't explode. But then, given that they have run the con this long, I guess it should be expected.
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
Adds credibility to the idea the church poohbahs know it's all made up bullshit anyhow, and if something comes along that requires twisting, pounding, subverting or contradicting long established church doctrine to accommodate, they will take their chances pissing off a God they made up. And the pew warmers aren't supposed to notice.
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
 (August 2, 2017 at 8:50 pm)tjakey Wrote: Though I have been an atheist for many years now I was, like many, raised in the christian religion. Lately I have begun to wonder if there will be an American version of Dietrich Bonhoeffer; at least one semi-well-know christian leader who will challenge the American christians who worship and support the Der Trumpster. Maybe the time for such has past, with virtually every flavor of christian ideology now too deeply corrupted to engender any real opposition to greed and selfishness. I don't give a shit about anyone's beliefs so long as they are decent. And if they're not decent, all the other agreements in the world we might have won't get me cottoning to them. (August 2, 2017 at 10:28 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Adds credibility to the idea the church poohbahs know it's all made up bullshit anyhow, and if something comes along that requires twisting, pounding, subverting or contradicting long established church doctrine to accommodate, they will take their chances pissing off a God they made up. And the pew warmers aren't supposed to notice. To flesh that out a little more, if you really were fronting for the Lord God Almighty, Creator of the Heavens and the Earth, and you were completely aware of it, how could expediency or pragmatism EVER modify your beliefs?? Seriously, there'd be nothing a mere human could offer you that would even tempt you to fudge your fealty to His expressed edicts, strictures, rules, commandments and laws. Trump is a litmus test for sincerity of belief, and look how good he is at snagging apostates and heretics for us !!!! The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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