Isn't it funny...

[GUBU]

CL's understanding is right in line with Catholic doctrine.

Well....now.

It didn't start off that way...........

On the Origin of Species was published in 1859, during the papacy of Pope Pius IX, who defined dogmatically papal infallibility during the First Vatican Council in 1869–70. The council has a section on "Faith and Reason" that includes the following on science and faith:
On God the Creator, the Vatican Council was very clear. The definitions preceding the "anathema" (as a technical term of Catholic theology, let him be "cut off" or excommunicated, cf. Galatians 1:6–9; Titus 3:10–11; Matthew 18:15–17) signify an infallible doctrine of the Catholic Faith (De Fide):
On God the creator of all things

1. If anyone denies the one true God, creator and lord of things visible and invisible: let him be anathema.
   

In 1870 that church would have tied her to a stake and lit the fire if they thought they could get away with it!  It didn't change until 1950.

Pope Pius XII's encyclical of 1950, Humani generis, was the first encyclical to specifically refer to evolution, and took up a neutral position, again concentrating on human evolution:

The Church does not forbid that ... research and discussions, on the part of men experienced in both fields, take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter.

Such is the "universal" and "unchanging" word of god!

Only for the Nazi pope fucking off and retiring with his harem of altar-boys I wouldn't be surprised if he would try to turn the rcc back to creatardism. A lot of his pronouncements on science and especially evolution only differed from Ham's in the accent they were delivered in.

[Flavius]

Wow here we go again, let's use coincidences based upon billions of years of failures as proof for creationism. That's like picking up a stone and saying it has a creator because it's smooth. It's irrelevant and you're spinning in circles.

[Joods]

Regarding air quality and distance of the Earth from the sun - we all know there are variations...

None of which jive with you notion of the sun dancing around .

As for people automatically knowing that murder is wrong, I'm speaking about the RULE, not the exception...

And your still wrong

As for people calling on God in times of crisis, again, you bring up the exception to the rule instead of focusing on the rule...

Those exceptions still exist and cannot be ignored . Though you have not even proven this assertion is a rule.

Regarding the pursuit of truth and balancing the scales of justice, again you speak of exceptions instead of the rule...

Which has nothing to do with a god

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Ah.  So when I point out the flaws in your argument, you suddenly change your tune from "always" this and "perfect" that and "everyone blah blah blah", to "Yes, there are exceptions, buuut..."
Thank you for admitting that your original post was false witness.  I strongly advise you to confess that sin at the next possible opportunity, lest you forget to do it and go to your imaginary hell on a technicality.  

What do you expect the story change as it is refuted

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The problem is not that we don't know what powers our organs. The problem is if the body could handle the reactivation. Your idiotic idea that understanding means reversible . We understand why paper burns but I cannot unburn paper

You might want to fix your quote tags... or actually put some in there.

[Astonished]

Isn't it funny that in spite of the bible being full of demonstrably wrong claims and abysmal moral preachments, a majority of the world not only still believes it, but dismisses those things as if they aren't even in there at all? What a knee-slapper.

[Amarok]

The heart one is the dumbest by far we know what powers our heart food, water ,electricity , oxygen , and varied chemicals . And honestly thinks that understanding this would make dying reversible .

The morality one is dumb as we don't automatically know right from wrong it's a learned behavior .

And idiot thinks laws mean legislation rather then descriptions of consistency by observation

And truth is merely also learned we don't start out with it .

Religion is a evolutionary error .

And it's not that all the constants of the universe are made for us it's that we developed from them or we all be dead

It's not true that every part would need to be in place in just such a way if we had evolved differently. In fact in a totally different in environment we had not evolved to we would likely die .

And it's not coincidence it's nature in it's current form doing what it does.

[Cecelia]

Isn't It Funny...
 

• … that gravity on earth just happens to be the perfect value to allow humans to move freely, and never varies such that people become stuck in place or float into the atmosphere, wiping out humanity?
  
• … that the air quality on earth just happens to provide the perfect environment to sustain human life, never varying such that human beings become poisoned or suffocated, wiping out all humanity?
  
•  … that the distance of the earth from the sun never varies such that all humanity either burns or freezes to death?
  
•  … that atheists admit there are laws of nature, but deny there is anyone who created those laws?
  
•  … that studies have been performed confirming that there is no place on earth where religion hasn't been practiced? Why do people have this built-in instinct?
  
•  … that every person is born with a built-in knowledge that actions such as murder, suicide, theft, and deceit are wrong, without ever having to learn about this in school?
  
•  … that every person that goes against this built-in knowledge (the natural law) also has a voice of conscience that rebukes him repeatedly that what he did was wrong? Where does this voice come from and why do we all have it?
  
•  … that every person has a built-in desire to pursue the truth in matters, and to balance the scales of justice when they become imbalanced?
  
•  … that every person instinctively begs God for help when death appears imminent, whether they previously learned to do this or not?
  
•  … that men and women just happen to be created with a built in desire for one another?
  
•  … that men and women just happen to have the built-in desire for self-preservation and procreation?
  
•  … that there is an automated food chain across the globe that continuously maintains life?
  
•  … that the human brain, a 3 pound piece of tissue, is the most complex computer found on the planet?
  
•  … that the human heart can maintain life for over 100 years with its own mysterious source of energy?
  
•  … that of the countless functions of the human body, if any of them were omitted or occurred in a different order, it would wipe out humanity?
  
• … that many atheists try to assert there is no God due to deaths in past wars, while they neglect to acknowledge the fact that 4.5 million people die of natural causes across the globe every MONTH (55 million per year)?
  
• … that atheists will become angry when these facts are pointed out in this forum post? This anger obviously stems from the atheist continuously fighting his own conscience as it repeatedly points out all of these facts.
  

• Isn't it funny that 99% of the universe is unsuitable for human life?  As if it weren't created just for us!
  
• Kind of funny that a god would create arbitrary rules for how humans can survive, when he allegedly created it for us
  
• Kind of funny that we can't (yet) sustain life on other planets, despite there being several of them out there.  One would think if there were a god, you wouldn't need the other planets.
  
• Laws of Nature are Scientific Laws.  Not Laws that are written down.  They are observations we make.  This is how a natural world works.  Not a supernatural world.
  
• Isn't it funny how they don't all have the same religion?  One would think if everyone descended from the same three sons of Noah, that everyone would have the same religion.  Funny how that works isn't it?
  
• Actually they aren't born with ANY built in Knowledge.  So this is a failure.  People have to be taught these things.  If they were your bible would be fucking pointless.
  
• Also not true.  Many people are sociopaths.  People develop a conscience, and have different views on right and wrong.
  
• Everyone doesn't have a built in desire to seek truth.  See: Yourself.  You only see what you want to see.
  
• No, they don't.  This is the old "No Atheists in Foxholes" myth.  Which simply isn't true.  What IS funny though is that so many people are certain of there being an afterlife, yet fear death.  Almost as if they know their bullshit stinks.
  
• Not everyone has a built in desire for the opposite sex.  Some people have a desire for the same sex relations.  Just as we see in nature.  Kind of funny how that works too, huh?
  
• Kind of funny that humans would want to preserve themselves when there's supposed to be an afterlife huh?
  
• Not really.  A Food chain is a natural sequence. No gods required.
  
• Brains are nothing like computers.  Also brains are fairly inefficient.  A computer can give you the answer to (42898572485*498275452)/13+11/6) in less than a second.  A human brain will take much longer.
  
• Not really mysterious at all.
  
  
• Funny how the Appendix is mostly useless, and can be removed without any real harm.  And in fact if inflamed can kill you.  Wonder why a 'creator' would create such a thing.
  
• Nobody asserts there's no god because of war.  We assert there's no god because there is no evidence.  Zero.  Zilch.  Nada. 
  
• The anger stems from you failing to understand logic.  It's like arguing with a brick wall.  Ultimately pointless but we do it to pass the time.
  

[Athene]

Isn't It Funny...
 
[*] … that the human heart can maintain life for over 100 years with its own mysterious source of energy?

[*]
I'm sitting here staring at the potato and fruit clocks I made in 3rd grade, and considering the possibility that our hearts may employ some sort of electrical system that makes them "go".   

God willing, we'll figure this one out together. Then we can delve into that "mysterious" refrigerator light thing.

[chimp3]

Isn't It Funny...
 

• … that gravity on earth just happens to be the perfect value to allow humans to move freely, and never varies such that people become stuck in place or float into the atmosphere, wiping out humanity?
  
• … that the air quality on earth just happens to provide the perfect environment to sustain human life, never varying such that human beings become poisoned or suffocated, wiping out all humanity?
  
•  … that the distance of the earth from the sun never varies such that all humanity either burns or freezes to death?
  
•  … that atheists admit there are laws of nature, but deny there is anyone who created those laws?
  
•  … that studies have been performed confirming that there is no place on earth where religion hasn't been practiced? Why do people have this built-in instinct?
  
•  … that every person is born with a built-in knowledge that actions such as murder, suicide, theft, and deceit are wrong, without ever having to learn about this in school?
  
•  … that every person that goes against this built-in knowledge (the natural law) also has a voice of conscience that rebukes him repeatedly that what he did was wrong? Where does this voice come from and why do we all have it?
  
•  … that every person has a built-in desire to pursue the truth in matters, and to balance the scales of justice when they become imbalanced?
  
•  … that every person instinctively begs God for help when death appears imminent, whether they previously learned to do this or not?
  
•  … that men and women just happen to be created with a built in desire for one another?
  
•  … that men and women just happen to have the built-in desire for self-preservation and procreation?
  
•  … that there is an automated food chain across the globe that continuously maintains life?
  
•  … that the human brain, a 3 pound piece of tissue, is the most complex computer found on the planet?
  
•  … that the human heart can maintain life for over 100 years with its own mysterious source of energy?
  
•  … that of the countless functions of the human body, if any of them were omitted or occurred in a different order, it would wipe out humanity?
  
• … that many atheists try to assert there is no God due to deaths in past wars, while they neglect to acknowledge the fact that 4.5 million people die of natural causes across the globe every MONTH (55 million per year)?
  
• … that atheists will become angry when these facts are pointed out in this forum post? This anger obviously stems from the atheist continuously fighting his own conscience as it repeatedly points out all of these facts.
  

 
Is all the above a coincidence? Clearly not, but rather it is proof for a Divine Creator.

Wow! That is amazing how perfectly everything lined up! Except for the uncovered heads and those annoying little baby boy foreskins. Oh, and the irresistible flavor of pork!

[Dropship]

Wow! That is amazing how perfectly everything lined up! Except for the uncovered heads and those annoying little baby boy foreskins. Oh, and the irresistible flavor of pork!

No offence mate, but are you a closet fire-and-brimstone fundy preacherman?
Jesus never said a word  about uncovered heads or foreskins or pork, so why try to pin it on him?..

[chimp3]

Wow! That is amazing how perfectly everything lined up! Except for the uncovered heads and those annoying little baby boy foreskins. Oh, and the irresistible flavor of pork!

No offence mate, but are you a closet fire-and-brimstone fundy preacherman?
Jesus never said a word  about uncovered heads or foreskins or pork, so why try to pin it on him?..

Either Jesus is God or he isn't! I wish you religious nuts would get your story straight! If Jesus is God then he preached a lot of bullshit in the OT , didn't he?