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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 2:45 pm
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Is the catechism not "church teaching"? Are the infallible decrees of popes not "church teaching"?
Where do you get your church teaching from...CL?
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 2:48 pm
(August 15, 2017 at 2:43 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (August 15, 2017 at 2:39 pm)Cyberman Wrote: Making the Catholic priest part of his life largely irrelevant, surely?
Again, relevant to the point I was making that belief in evolution is not against Church teaching.
Not relevent to his theory/discovery itself.
Um no, that institution has always been late to the party, they were against it long before they were for it. That same institution also took forever to accept the planet as being a globe and not flat.
Religion is forced to adapt, not because it has facts, but because it wants to remain relevant despite knowledge passing them by. But again, I am being fair because that is what all religions worldwide do. Adapt and try to retrofit rather than admit they made a bad guess.
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:16 pm
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(August 15, 2017 at 3:15 am)Tizheruk Wrote: (August 15, 2017 at 2:26 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: "Creationresearch".
Can you give me a list of their "scientists" ans what fields they have their degrees in?
The site lists the following
Quote:Robert Carter
Ph.D. Marine Biology, Univ. of Miami
Speaker/Senior Scientist, Creation Ministries International (USA)
Kevin L. Anderson (not a board member)
Ph.D. Microbiology, Kansas State University
Director of CRS Van Andel Creation Research Center
Jerry Bergman
Ph.D. Research & Evaluation, Wayne State University
Eugene F. Chaffin, Vice President, CRSQ Physics Editor
Ph.D. Physics, Oklahoma State Univ.
Prof. of Physics, North Greenville University
Donald B. DeYoung, President, CRSQ Book Review Editor
Ph.D. Physics, Iowa State Univ.
Prof. of Physics, Grace College
Danny R. Faulkner, Treasurer, CRSQ [i]Editor-in-Chief[/i]
Ph.D. Astronomy, Indiana Univ.
Distinguished Prof. Emeritus, Univ. of South Carolina (Lancaster)
Astronomer, Answers in Genesis
Robert L. Hill
Ed.D. Physics and Astronomy, Ball State University
Prof. of Physics, Bob Jones University
D. Russell Humphreys
Ph.D. Physics, Louisiana State Univ.
Research Physicist (retired), Sandia National Laboratories
Jean K. Lightner
D.V.M., M.S. Veterinary Preventive Medicine, The Ohio State Univ.
Independent researcher, writer, and speaker
Adjunct Prof., Liberty Univ. Online
Gary H. Locklair, Recording Secretary
Ph.D. Computer Science, Nova Southeastern University
Professor and Chair of Computer Science, Concordia University Wisconsin
Michael Oard
M.S. in Atmospheric Science, Univ. of Washington
Lead Forecaster (retired), National Weather Service
Answers in Genesis
John K. Reed, CRSQ Geology Editor
Ph.D. Geology, Univ. of South Carolina
Ronald G. Samec, CRSQ Astronomy Editor
Ph.D. Physics, Clemson Univ.
Prof. Physics and Astronomy, Emmanuel College (beginning fall 2015)
Glen W. Wolfrom, Membership Secretary, Creation Matters Editor
Ph.D., Animal Science, Univ. of Mo.
Principal Clinical Research Scientist (retired), Boehringer Ingelheim Vetmedica, Inc.
But as I have said having the credentials does not mean they act like scientists . When dealing in creationism . For instance I know of D. Russell Humphreys and yes he does legitimate work as long as it does not conflict with his religious beliefs . When it does scientific objectivities goes right out the window and he becomes a religious apologist.
Also see
(August 15, 2017 at 3:12 am)Alex K Wrote: Hrhr are you for real.
You are a bad bad Catholic: the popes disagree with what you write. Need I say more?
True the Catholic church clearly accepts evolution . Thou not officially. It's pretty clear .
Interesting that they only have 5 actual biologists . And none of the are evolutionary biologists at that.
Well, need we say more after looking at that list of scientists with PhD's?? Condemning them all across the board is as absurd as it gets.
And for the record, the Catholic Church PERMITS belief in the theory of evolution AS LONG AS the Catholic believes Adam and Eve were the first human beings infused with a SOUL. By doing so it is not a conflict with Catholicism, though it's still ridiculous.
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:17 pm
Having imaginary friends doesn't say much about one's education.
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:22 pm
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(August 15, 2017 at 3:16 pm)pabsta Wrote: Well, need we say more after looking at that list of scientists with PhD's?? Condemning them all across the board is as absurd as it gets.
And for the record, the Catholic Church PERMITS belief in the theory of evolution AS LONG AS the Catholic believes Adam and Eve were the first human beings infused with a SOUL.
-and that we're all descended from them.
-and that we're all gods creation and design.
IOW, it doesn't permit belief in evolution at all. It permits it's believers to -call- their superstitious beliefs evolution™.
Actually evolutionary biology tells us that there was no and could be no original breeding pair of adam and eve from which we all descend, and that we are not the product of some intelligent design.
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:26 pm
Ok, I disagree with you about creationism pabsta, but I don't think you're a poe anymore.
My theory personally is that at some point between apes and the human form as it is now (very very close but not quite), God granted "human souls" to one male and one female (Adam and Eve), in the form of intelligence to recognize morality.
I guess scientifically you could explain that as the first neuron/brain connection, or whatever it would be, which made the difference between an innocent animal and a human who is able to understand right from wrong, thus attaining moral free will.
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:27 pm
Quote:The Pope Would Like You to Accept Evolution And the Big Bang
The Roman Catholic Church is pro evolution and Big Bang, but with a twist
Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news...1ecMvWe.99
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:28 pm
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(August 15, 2017 at 3:26 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ok, I disagree with you about creationism pabsta, but I don't think you're a poe anymore.
My theory personally is that at some point between apes and the human form as it is now (very very close but not quite), God granted "human souls" to one male and one female (Adam and Eve), in the form of intelligence to recognize morality.
I guess scientifically you could explain that as the first neuron/brain connection, or whatever it would be, which made the difference between an innocent animal and a human who is able to understand right from wrong, thus attaining moral free will.
And I think that is an allegory for explaining the change from simple mammalian thinking to self aware sentient thinking.
I know you and the Catholic church make use of allegorical interpretations. How do you decide when to go literal and when not? It does seem that the trend over the history of the Catholic church is toward ever more allegorical interpretation, doesn't it?
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RE: The theory of evolution HOAX
August 15, 2017 at 3:30 pm
(August 15, 2017 at 3:16 pm)pabsta Wrote: And for the record, the Catholic Church PERMITS belief in the theory of evolution AS LONG AS the Catholic believes Adam and Eve were the first human beings infused with a SOUL. By doing so it is not a conflict with Catholicism, though it's still ridiculous.
Well then, the Catholic church would be wrong on the Adam and Eve claim.
How can evolution be ridiculous, when it has been observed, in the wild and in the lab?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: The theory of evolution FACT
August 15, 2017 at 3:30 pm
(August 15, 2017 at 3:41 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Number of scientist names steve who accept the theory of evolution 1417
So what excuses are you going to use to dismiss all of these scientists . Aside conspiracy theories .
Quantity is not a sign of truth. At one time all scientists and medical doctors believed tuberculosis was only hereditary. One doctor determined it was actually spread through the air by coughing, and he was ostracized for saying so. Later it turns out he was right. So your list means nothing.
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