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Religion and Science are 1000% Opposite
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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If a person is angling for the deluge, it's difficult to imagine why they wouldn't also insist that bats are birds. On the one hand, I understand, it's an absurdity, but it's no more or less absurd than the other.
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IMO, anyone who believes that the Biblical flood actually happened is a lunatic. It's painfully obvious that it's a tall tale based on stories of smaller regional floods.
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(October 19, 2017 at 11:04 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(October 19, 2017 at 5:38 am)Mathilda Wrote: Oooh! Another one. Minimal viable population


The upshot of this is that all the pairs of animals saved on the ark would then die out due to lack of genetic diversity. Adam and Eve too. If they had existed then their off-spring would have only been able to reproduce via incestuous relationships.

When people speak of the animal pairs that went into the ark they ALWAYS assume that it was a pair of the exact same animal and not a pair of the same species.

The Bible uses the word "kind" and "sort" which have the same meaning as "species".

Who ALWAYS assumes that it was a pair of the exact same animal (whatever the hell that means) and not a pair of the same species? Seriously, who?

As for the Bible using "kind" or "sort" as having the same meaning as "species" . . . fine. The problem is that we have seen numerous examples of creationists who play fast and loose with what those words mean. Sometimes species. Sometimes genus. Sometimes even more general taxonomic categories. The only common thread seems to be whatever this or that creationist needs them to mean to salvage their argument in the moment.

So now that you are committed to the story talking about species and not some more general taxonomical categories of living things, I look forward to seeing your stow plan and stability calculations that show how that's even possible. That's a hell of a lot of biomass to cram into a relatively small vessel.

Good luck with that.
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