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Star Trek Discovery, your thoughts?
September 27, 2017 at 12:08 am
So I just watched the new Star Trek show the other day. It's on television, not CBS's equivalent of Netflix, so that's cool. The general look and feel is closer to that of JJ Abram's Star Trek than it is the previous series. The political commentary doesn't bother me too much, as Star Trek has always been a liberal show with commentary on modern politics and social attitudes. It made fun of Trump supporters by just having them a bunch of idiotic Klingons, and I kinda like that. I think it's funny. I also think it's funny that people are pissing and moaning because a black woman is in a lead role. Like, who the fuck cares one way or the other?
My biggest problem with it though, is that it doesn't feel like Star Trek. Where is the feeling of exploration, and being isolated in space? This isn't Star Wars, it's Star Trek, TREK damn it! I want them to explore new worlds, not have Antifa vs. Nazis battle it out in space.
So those are my thoughts. What are yours?
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RE: Star Trek Discovery, your thoughts?
September 27, 2017 at 12:28 am
(September 27, 2017 at 12:08 am)Mechaghostman2 Wrote: So I just watched the new Star Trek show the other day. It's on television, not CBS's equivalent of Netflix, so that's cool. The general look and feel is closer to that of JJ Abram's Star Trek than it is the previous series. The political commentary doesn't bother me too much, as Star Trek has always been a liberal show with commentary on modern politics and social attitudes. It made fun of Trump supporters by just having them a bunch of idiotic Klingons, and I kinda like that. I think it's funny. I also think it's funny that people are pissing and moaning because a black woman is in a lead role. Like, who the fuck cares one way or the other?
My biggest problem with it though, is that it doesn't feel like Star Trek. Where is the feeling of exploration, and being isolated in space? This isn't Star Wars, it's Star Trek, TREK damn it! I want them to explore new worlds, not have Antifa vs. Nazis battle it out in space.
So those are my thoughts. What are yours?
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Never liked JJ abram's version of star trek . Don't like the alien redesigns (Romulans look awful and blue Klingons wthat the heck). Hate the fact were in the past again .
We had so much to explore after DS9. The gamma quadrant for example. It seems like a waste.
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RE: Star Trek Discovery, your thoughts?
September 27, 2017 at 1:01 am
How many permutations of Klingons and what they do and how the Federation interacts with them do we need to see ??
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RE: Star Trek Discovery, your thoughts?
September 27, 2017 at 1:11 am
If you have Klingons, wipe harder.
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RE: Star Trek Discovery, your thoughts?
September 27, 2017 at 1:47 am
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(September 27, 2017 at 1:01 am)vorlon13 Wrote: How many permutations of Klingons and what they do and how the Federation interacts with them do we need to see ?? Their have been two
The degenerated Klingons a result of using human DNA to cure a horrible virus that threatened to wipe the Klingon race .
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The post and pre Degenerate Klingons before the virus and after the Klingons figured out how to fix the problem
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As for why we need Klingons there one of the big three powers in the Alpha/Beta quadrant .
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RE: Star Trek Discovery, your thoughts?
September 27, 2017 at 2:11 am
So you must have not been a fan of Deep Space 9 either?
I haven't seen the new show yet, though. I'll have to try and hunt it down this weekend.
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RE: Star Trek Discovery, your thoughts?
September 27, 2017 at 3:11 am
The creators & co. wants us to accept the new Star Trek and as such I guess it could be interesting it is kind of hard to judge from the first episode. SFX and prosthetics are better and more convincing while interior of Enterprise doesn't have it usual cozy look like it usualy was for starships in ST, it's more like submarine. Klingons are re-imagined like religious fanatics. It all seems more murky and brooding and you can't expect to see characters like Dr. Hologram any time soon.
But I guess there was one thing that you could admire in "old" shows is that they had their own thing while this new one seems will be influenced by recent drama shows like "Sopranos", "Mad Men" and "Battlestar Galactica".
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RE: Star Trek Discovery, your thoughts?
September 27, 2017 at 3:58 am
Haven't seen it.
I've never been a fan of Retro Trek.
To me, an ideal Trek series will be set a few years aftee the end of DS9 or Voyager.
As for Discovery, I think I'll wait for the book...
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RE: Star Trek Discovery, your thoughts?
September 27, 2017 at 4:55 am
(September 27, 2017 at 2:11 am)Aroura Wrote: So you must have not been a fan of Deep Space 9 either?
I haven't seen the new show yet, though. I'll have to try and hunt it down this weekend.
I love DS9
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RE: Star Trek Discovery, your thoughts?
September 27, 2017 at 5:53 am
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(September 27, 2017 at 1:47 am)Tizheruk Wrote: The degenerated Klingons a result of using human DNA to cure a horrible virus that threatened to wipe the Klingon race .
Not actually canon. Roddenberry himself the lack of ridgy Klingons in TOS was due to budget and makeup limitations.
It's another idiocy brought to you by Berman and Braga retconning an explanation they didn't need into Duchess Archer and Friends.
(September 27, 2017 at 3:58 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: Haven't seen it.
I've never been a fan of Retro Trek.
To me, an ideal Trek series will be set a few years aftee the end of DS9 or Voyager.
As for Discovery, I think I'll wait for the book...
Or give us Captain Sulu of the Excelsior. That's the only retro-Trek I'd accept.
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