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RE: What godly miracle would it take?
September 28, 2017 at 5:54 am
If my missing eye were to regrow in answer to intensive prayer, I would have trouble NOT believing.
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RE: What godly miracle would it take?
September 28, 2017 at 6:00 am
(September 28, 2017 at 4:03 am)ignoramus Wrote: (September 27, 2017 at 10:21 pm)chimp3 Wrote: An archeological expedition finds a 2000 year old wooden box which contains a DVD. The DVD shows a scene in ancient middle east. A man saves a veiled adulteress from public stoning. The adulteress throws off her veils revealing a woman in a bikini holding a cue card that reads "Say the word, win the bird!". A helicopter lands and Groucho Marx is the pilot. He is giving the crowd/ camera the middle finger. The bikineed adulteress jumps in to the chopper and they fly off into the sunset. Carbon 14 dating affirms age of DVD. That would make me take a double take!
(binary thought fallacy!)
That was funny! I was picturing in my head as I was reading it.
But I must ask. How or why, in any way, does this have anything to do with God existing?
Not much but it would make me think twice!
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!
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RE: What godly miracle would it take?
September 28, 2017 at 6:41 am
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Actually, this is how ridiculous the God notion is.
I'm trying to find an example to prove myself wrong.
and I came up with "If you are God, please stop all hunger and war and senseless killings immediately"
And it all came true!
And then I thought, nup, it's bloody Kevin fucking with the earth sim program again ... yeah, good one Kev...
(I'm a cynical little prick, aren't I? .......but a practical one)
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RE: What godly miracle would it take?
September 28, 2017 at 7:23 am
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A god imbuing me with its might/divine powers and deeming me its emissary here on Earth would probably do it.
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RE: What godly miracle would it take?
September 28, 2017 at 11:00 am
So even if there was a god, it's too big of a butthole to actually do anything good or useful.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: What godly miracle would it take?
September 28, 2017 at 11:07 am
(September 27, 2017 at 11:15 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: A personal appearance would be nice.
And then testable "miracles".
Hell, I might be convinced there's something in it if a faith healer truly carried out a measurable cure.
Yep, you beat me to it. So, this GOD shows up at a TV station. In the flesh. Morphs into a few different looks on camera, then causes all amputated limbs to re-grow instantly, all over the world. Heck, maybe it just heals everybody, everywhere. Then it goes through physical examinations and lots of interviews on camera. It explains where it comes from and whether any of the human religions come close to being right.
Then it would likely turn into some sort of overlord that would probably need killing.
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RE: What godly miracle would it take?
September 28, 2017 at 11:27 am
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I'd believe in a god if it could animate Donald Trump's hair in the middle of a live interview. It would speak and tell the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
That would convince me. Maybe.
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RE: What godly miracle would it take?
September 28, 2017 at 12:03 pm
(September 28, 2017 at 4:14 am)Sal Wrote: If some guy would come up to me and say he was Jesus, I'd back away, slowly.
Why? Suppose he merely wanted to blow your leaves away?
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RE: What godly miracle would it take?
September 28, 2017 at 1:19 pm
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(September 27, 2017 at 9:59 pm)Astonished Wrote: I know guys like Matt Dillahunty are reluctant to give an answer to this kind of question, and don't get me wrong, the answer of 'if there's a god they should know what would convince me' is fan-freakin'-tastic. But does anyone have a specific type of prayer they would need answered or miracle they would need to witness to convince them beyond a doubt?
Nothing would or could ever convince me. And you don't do Matt's answer justice... that isn't his full answer. This is his full answer:
(January 27, 2017 at 4:28 pm)Hammy Wrote: The greatest answer I have ever seen on the "What would change your mind?" or "what if you're wrong?" question regarding God's existence:
Matt Dilahunty Wrote:The "What would change your mind" question came up again in e-mail. I've provided an answer many times, but the following version might be worth thinking about:
"I don't know what would change my mind, and I don't need to know. In fact, it would be arrogant for me to presume that I could even come up with an answer, because that presumes that I'm sufficiently knowledgeable that I can tell the difference between 'a vastly superior technology that is beyond my understanding' and 'the powers of a god'.
But, if there is a god, that god should know exactly what it would take to change my mind...and that god should be capable of doing whatever it would take. The fact that this hasn't happened can only mean one of two things:
1. No such god exists.
2. Whatever god exists doesn't care to convince me, at this time.
In either case, it's not my problem and there's nothing I can do about it. Meanwhile, all of those believers who think that there is a god who does want me to know that he exists - are clearly, obviously, undeniably... wrong."
From his Facebook. Fucking awesome as fuck, IMO.
What do you guys think?
I added the bold just now.
Nothing would or could change my mind except God who could only do it with some sort of mind probe that forced me to believe he wasn't an alien regardless of if he (or she or it) was or not.
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RE: What godly miracle would it take?
September 28, 2017 at 2:08 pm
(September 28, 2017 at 12:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (September 28, 2017 at 4:14 am)Sal Wrote: If some guy would come up to me and say he was Jesus, I'd back away, slowly.
Why? Suppose he merely wanted to blow your leaves away?
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