Miracles in Christianity - how to answer

[Minimalist]

According to this article, there was a supposed Eucharistic miracle in Argentina where the bread transformed into flesh, which was tested by an atheist who wasn't told where it had come from and he found traces of skin. A separate professor said it was human heart tissue (the Lanciano miracle was said to be human heart tissue). What do you make of that?

How about leaving an altar boy alone with a catholick priest for an evening.  If his asshole is not 8 sizes larger in the morning THAT would be a miracle.

[Ravenshire]

According to this article, there was a supposed Eucharistic miracle in Argentina where the bread transformed into flesh, which was tested by an atheist who wasn't told where it had come from and he found traces of skin. A separate professor said it was human heart tissue (the Lanciano miracle was said to be human heart tissue). What do you make of that?

Kiwi, you keep holding up alleged miracles and asking what we can make of them. Are you looking for a "gotcha" or really dismissing your faith.

These so-called miracles you have so much trouble with are pure, unadulterated bullshit until evidence to the contrary is presented. The fact that no-one ever makes a verifiable claim about, or offers any evidence in support of any of them is the biggest giveaway.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

According to this article, there was a supposed Eucharistic miracle in Argentina where the bread transformed into flesh, which was tested by an atheist who wasn't told where it had come from and he found traces of skin. A separate professor said it was human heart tissue (the Lanciano miracle was said to be human heart tissue). What do you make of that?

 I believe in miracles and salvation is the greatest one of all, it has to do with our spiritual life with God most the rest are about the physical and that is only temporary.

 Now lets go to the scriptures, we are told that drinking blood is forbidden to us and that to eat human flesh is forbidden to us. So with this established for Christians it would be a sin for us to do either and Christ would never tempt us let lone outright tell us to sin. This should put an end to those supposed miracles. The wine and bread was always a representation of the bodily sacrifice Christ made for mankind. It was this sacrifice that was required for our redemption and that is why salvation is a miracle, God gave up who He was so we could be forgiven and redeemed unto Him. Jesus life started as a miracle with the virgin birth and ended with the resurrection miracle. And in our belief of those miracles we receive the miracle of salvation. From the miracle of Christmas to the miracle of Easter we have been shown the love of God here on this planet.

GC

In Leviticus 19:31 (CEV) Yahweh says that people who claim that they can talk to the dead disgust him.  So how could anyone have spoken to the resurrected Yeshua when the dead do not rise?  By the Bible's own criteria the resurrection story that Paul concocted was pure BS since Yahweh would never, ever, resurrect anyone from the dead because he found that idea to be disgusting.

Leviticus 19:31 (CEV) ="Don’t make yourselves disgusting to me by going to people who claim they can talk to the dead."

[Godscreated]

 I believe in miracles and salvation is the greatest one of all, it has to do with our spiritual life with God most the rest are about the physical and that is only temporary.

 Now lets go to the scriptures, we are told that drinking blood is forbidden to us and that to eat human flesh is forbidden to us. So with this established for Christians it would be a sin for us to do either and Christ would never tempt us let lone outright tell us to sin. This should put an end to those supposed miracles. The wine and bread was always a representation of the bodily sacrifice Christ made for mankind. It was this sacrifice that was required for our redemption and that is why salvation is a miracle, God gave up who He was so we could be forgiven and redeemed unto Him. Jesus life started as a miracle with the virgin birth and ended with the resurrection miracle. And in our belief of those miracles we receive the miracle of salvation. From the miracle of Christmas to the miracle of Easter we have been shown the love of God here on this planet.

GC

In Leviticus 19:31 (CEV) Yahweh says that people who claim that they can talk to the dead disgust him.  So how could anyone have spoken to the resurrected Yeshua when the dead do not rise?  By the Bible's own criteria the resurrection story that Paul concocted was pure BS since Yahweh would never, ever, resurrect anyone from the dead because he found that idea to be disgusting.

Leviticus 19:31 (CEV) ="Don’t make yourselves disgusting to me by going to people who claim they can talk to the dead."

 Cherry picker, that verses is speaking of spiritualist. mediums and soothsayers. You are a desperate one to try and pull that on the Christians here.

 GC

[drfuzzy]

In Leviticus 19:31 (CEV) Yahweh says that people who claim that they can talk to the dead disgust him.  So how could anyone have spoken to the resurrected Yeshua when the dead do not rise?  By the Bible's own criteria the resurrection story that Paul concocted was pure BS since Yahweh would never, ever, resurrect anyone from the dead because he found that idea to be disgusting.

Leviticus 19:31 (CEV) ="Don’t make yourselves disgusting to me by going to people who claim they can talk to the dead."

 Cherry picker, that verses is speaking of spiritualist. mediums and soothsayers. You are a desperate one to try and pull that on the Christians here.

 GC

LOL.  While, as a former fundie, I can hear the rebuttals: something similar to Jesus was DIFFERENT, Jesus was GOD, Jesus was HOLY, or being completely resurrected, he certainly wasn't dead.  Yadda yadda yadda.
Christians HERE?  In an Atheist forum?  Which ones?  There are some that treat people with respect and rarely try to convert, and then there are the loonies - which ones are in your tribe?
But to have any professed "xtian" whine about cherry-picking is PRICELESS.  
Do you go to doctors?  James 5:14 condemns you.  Do you have a wife or daughters that fix their hair, or wear jewelry?  Oh dear. 1st Peter 3:3.  Do you dress up on occasion?  Matthew 6:28-29   Ever given much consideration to Luke 14:26?  It literally states that you should hate your family.  Or, at least, put Jeebus above them.
What about divorced people?  According to Jeebus, they're a whole lot worse than gays.  And we certainly hope that you haven't married a divorced woman.  Matthew 5:32
Ever done that asshole move, praying in a public restaurant?  Not cool.  Matthew 6:6    Saved for retirement?   Going to hell.  Matthew 6:34   Tho' there are a LOT of apologetics associated with that one.  There are hundreds like these - returned escaped slaves to their owners yet?  But at least we're certain that GC, being a good observant xtian, has given away everything he owns, repeatedly.  I mean, that's the linchpin, right?  Jesus says this in SO many places . . . Luke 14:33.

Cherry picking.  Now THAT's funny.  

[ignoramus]

Fuzzy, I'm glad you're on our side!

[drfuzzy]

Fuzzy, I'm glad you're on our side!

Aw thanks Ig.       Gee.

[Nay_Sayer]

In Leviticus 19:31 (CEV) Yahweh says that people who claim that they can talk to the dead disgust him.  So how could anyone have spoken to the resurrected Yeshua when the dead do not rise?  By the Bible's own criteria the resurrection story that Paul concocted was pure BS since Yahweh would never, ever, resurrect anyone from the dead because he found that idea to be disgusting.

Leviticus 19:31 (CEV) ="Don’t make yourselves disgusting to me by going to people who claim they can talk to the dead."

 Cherry picker, that verses is speaking of spiritualist. mediums and soothsayers. You are a desperate one to try and pull that on the Christians here.

 GC

Oh, dear sweet simpleton, Don't go asking others to show you how inane your storybook is, it won't end well.
RAmen

[downbeatplumb]

According to this article, there was a supposed Eucharistic miracle in Argentina where the bread transformed into flesh, which was tested by an atheist who wasn't told where it had come from and he found traces of skin. A separate professor said it was human heart tissue (the Lanciano miracle was said to be human heart tissue). What do you make of that?

It's the Daily Heil a paper with such high journalistic standards it's no longer accepted as a source by wikipedia, a paper with such high moral standards it has yet to repudiate or apologise for its war time support for Hitler.

The chances of this "miracle" not being bullshit are exactly 0%.

I think they need to change bakers.

[JackRussell]

GC The information content in the bible decreases over time.

As we learn more we see that it is ill-informed, nasty shit from an earlier culture.

I guess you are happy with stoning gays or not eating shell-fish or not saving for the morrow.

Vicarious redemption, blood sacrifice and talking snakes are not a part of modern rational discourse.

I know you will deny this as easily as you deny the fact of evolution, because you are a moron in this regard. Even many of your fellow Christians here agree with me on this.

EDIT: BY here, I meant in the UK, not on this forum.