Mass shooting in Las Vegas. 50+ dead

[WinterHold]

[Minimalist]

From what I'm hearing, kudos to the swat team. 

If this does not create stricter federal gun controls or bans then congress/americans are fucking nuts.

It won't.  Don't you know that it is always "too soon" for that discussion?

After all, guns don't kill people - people kill people.


And toasters don't make toast - people do.

[brewer]

From what I'm hearing, kudos to the swat team. 

If this does not create stricter federal gun controls or bans then congress/americans are fucking nuts.

It won't.  Don't you know that it is always "too soon" for that discussion?

After all, guns don't kill people - people kill people.


And toasters don't make toast - people do.

This may be the time when a knee jerk reaction is warranted.

[Minimalist]

It never has been before.


If Sandy Hook didn't do it, neither will this.

[Jackie]

From what I'm hearing, kudos to the swat team. 

If this does not create stricter federal gun controls or bans then congress/americans are fucking nuts.

It won't.  Don't you know that it is always "too soon" for that discussion?

After all, guns don't kill people - people kill people.


And toasters don't make toast - people do.

I really do get tired of the bullshit argument "a gun cant magically fire itself, so you cant blame the gun."

NO SHIT, but you can blame the marketing and you can blame the attitude surrounding the object. Just like a Koran has no magic power to do anything without humans, but it still takes humans to pick up the object.

The nutters ARE worshiping the object as if it were a living being with rights. Just like the far right nuts worship the Koran as if it were a living being and not a book.

Humans have rights, objects do not.

America has a gun fetish and that fetish is costing us billions in health care costs and 36,000 deaths per year.

Yes, you have the right to own a firearm, but others have a say in our laws, not one lobby, not one party, but all of us. It is not tyranny if you don't get everything you want 100% of the time. You either value pluralism or you don't.

I love how the religious right rightfully condemns the violence out of the middle east, but cant see that their far right loves mixing religion with weapons too.

[JackRussell]

Yep, sadly gun stocks are up. After Trump's election they fell sharply as Americans did not, correctly, think he would try to reduce their amendment rights.

Hope everybody here is unaffected by this fucking outrage..

[Drich]

Worst sound bite yet. On CNN, Taylor Benge, witness, "I was agnostic going into that concert but I'm a firm believer in god now....."

No agnostics in fox holes

[Bob Kelso]

Worst sound bite yet. On CNN, Taylor Benge, witness, "I was agnostic going into that concert but I'm a firm believer in god now....."

No agnostics in fox holes

Aside from the ones that are in them, right, Drippy? ?

[Shell B]

Worst sound bite yet. On CNN, Taylor Benge, witness, "I was agnostic going into that concert but I'm a firm believer in god now....."

No agnostics in fox holes

You would consider this a win if someone converted, wouldn't you?

By the way, lots of atheists and agnostics in foxholes, probably doing their jobs while their Jesus-loving comrades are on their knees praying to an idea.

[JackRussell]

Been shot, seen brothers killed, been in a war, been terrified. Never believed or prayed in any bullshit, just my training, empathy and medical skills.