Reasoning showing homosexuality is evil.

[downbeatplumb]

Only time will tell how long liberal Western democratic values will last once they become completely divorced from their religious underpinnings.

Democratic values, you mean those values cooked up by worshippers of zeus and Apollo in the Hellenistic era?

Or are you perhaps projecting religion on somewhere where it isn't?

Its the last one isn't it.

[The Grand Nudger]

Everything sounds religious to a religious nut. Tell them about a secular government, and all they hear is that the government recognizes their godgiven right to discriminate against people for wrongfucking.

[Whateverist]

Nothing can last without forced indoctrination into some cult that leads you to devalue your self and plead to a deity to take you in its arms. "Oh, your will be done oh lord. Just put your holy hand up my butt and make me thy puppet."

[Succubus]

Only time will tell how long liberal Western democratic values will last once they become completely divorced from their religious underpinnings.

Underpinnings is a bit of a weasel word in this context, but no, democracy survives despite religion not because of it.

[Pat Mustard]

Only time will tell how long liberal Western democratic values will last once they become completely divorced from their religious underpinnings.

Longer than the religious values which have nothing to do with human rights or dignity of the person or rights of man have lasted.

Face facts, fuckface, your years of tyranny are over. Humanity, if it survives the next hundred years, is leaving the spoiled five year old phase of its existence and embracing morality.


Frankly western values have nothing to do with religion or religious "values". What is the difference between a devout muslim and a devout catholic? The direction they pray to.

[Losty]

" most humans would not have a shadow of a doubt that is evil if free-will is involved."

Really? I don't know the statistics on this but I don't think it's evil whether free will is involved or not.

[Minimalist]

Only time will tell how long liberal Western democratic values will last once they become completely divorced from their religious underpinnings.

Oh, cut the shit, will you.  Your jesus bullshit has nothing to do with western democratic values.  Jesus was portrayed as an "obey-your-master-and-you'll-your-reward-in-the-next-life" asshole.  It wasn't until religion was tossed out with last year's garbage that man started to express democratic ideals.  The middle east gives us a current idea of what happens when fucking religion is allowed to call the shots.

You are such a dumb fuck, chad.

[AFTT47]

Only time will tell how long liberal Western democratic values will last once they become completely divorced from their religious underpinnings.

Holy crap! Did you type that with a straight face? You are seriously deluded if you think democratic values have any origin in Christianity.

Oops. I see I'm late to this party.

[Edwardo Piet]

That was very funny and I did not anticipate the final punchline!

[Neo-Scholastic]

Tell them about a secular government, and all they hear is that the government recognizes their godgiven right to discriminate against people for wrongfucking.

I love the way atheists use the word secular as a synonym for godless. The true meaning of secular is being neutral with respect to sects.