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RE: Can someone debunk this
November 3, 2017 at 2:06 pm
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Would you feed gmo's / hormones knowingly to your kids?
https://www.webmd.com/diet/features/safe...hier-you#1
We do. And I bet you do too.
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RE: Can someone debunk this
November 3, 2017 at 3:21 pm
Hormones?!?!?!?!
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RE: Can someone debunk this
November 4, 2017 at 12:01 am
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(November 3, 2017 at 12:45 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Huggy, did you even read the article you linked to? Talk about a lack of critical thinking skills, lol. Says the person who thought abiogenesis had been reproduced under laboratory conditions...
I linked two articles btw, If you have a point to make, then make it.
(November 3, 2017 at 1:27 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:As if your website is in any way objective.
So that's your big come back .Not the fact it already addresses and refutes each point you put up . Just scream it doesn't agree with you so it's not objective . And your articles are the peak of objectivity .The first a site that promotes Alt med quackery . The other so full of Anti GMO vitriol i can just see the foam forming at the corners of the writers mouth as he wrote it. So fuck off with pretending your objective. *emphasis mine*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebMD
Quote:WebMD is best known as a health information services website, which publishes content regarding health and health care topics, including a symptom checklist, pharmacy information, drugs information, blogs of physicians with specific topics, and providing a place to store personal medical information. URAC, the Utilization Review Accreditation Commission, has accredited WebMD’s operations continuously since 2001 regarding everything from proper disclosures and health content to security and privacy.
Quote:WebMD offers services to physicians and private clients. For example, they publish WebMD the Magazine, a patient-directed publication distributed bimonthly to 85 percent of physician waiting rooms. Medscape is a professional portal for physicians with 30 medical specialty areas and more than 30 physician discussion boards. WebMD Health Services provides private health management programs and benefit decision-support portals to employers and health plans.
Promoting "alt med" quackery indeed...
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RE: Can someone debunk this
November 4, 2017 at 12:31 am
Even if it resembles a factory, a factory still has to be built up piece by piece; its operations and equipment cannot and do not pop up ex nihilo. And, of course, factories tend to (and indeed, are expected to) have its equipment change over time. Comparing the idea of irreducible complexity (itself a bullshit idea that does not hold up) to the workings of a factory is...
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Seriously, here's a good summation of the evolution of the digestive system:
http://quatr.us/biology/animals/digestion/digestion.htm
Literally every body part people have claimed to be irreducibly complex has had its evolution among living species and fossils pretty well traced by people who make it their business to understand how it all worked.
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RE: Can someone debunk this
November 4, 2017 at 2:57 am
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(November 1, 2017 at 9:30 am)
Quote:FPerson Wrote: Breathing, eating, walking, etc, are very natural human functions. But most people do not think about how these basic actions take place. For example, when you eat a fruit, you do not contemplate on how it will be made useful to your body. The only thing on your mind is eating a satisfying meal; at the same time, your body is involved in extremely detailed processes unimaginable to you in order to make this meal a health-giving thing.
The digestive system where these detailed processes take place starts to function as soon as a piece of food is taken into the mouth. Being involved in the system right at the outset, the saliva wets the food and helps it to be ground by the teeth and to slide down the esophagus.
The esophagus transports the food to the stomach where a perfect balance is at work. Here, the hydrochloric acid present in the stomach digests the food. This acid is so strong that it has the capacity to dissolve not only the food but also the stomach walls. Of course, such a flaw is not permitted in this perfect system. A secretion called mucus, which is secreted during digestion, covers all the walls of the stomach and provides a perfect protection against the destructive effect of the hydrochloric acid. Thus the stomach is prevented from consuming itself.
The point that deserves attention here is that evolution can by no means explain the system briefly summarized above. Evolution maintains that today’s complex organisms have evolved from primitive cellular forms by the gradual accumulation of small structural changes. However, as stated clearly, the system in the stomach could in no way have been formed step by step. The absence of even one factor would bring about the death of the organism.
When food is received into the stomach, the ability of the gastric juices to break down food is effectuated as a result of a series of chemical changes. Now, imagine a living being in the so-called evolutionary process in whose body such a planned chemical transformation is not complete. This living being, unable to develop this ability autonomously, would not be able to digest the food it ate and would starve to death with an undigested mass of food in its stomach.
In addition, during the secretion of this dissolving acid, the stomach walls simultaneously have to produce the secretion called mucus. Otherwise, the acid in the stomach would destroy the stomach. Therefore, in order for life to continue, the stomach must secrete both fluids (acid and mucus) at the same time. This shows it was not a step-by-step coincidental evolution that must, in effect, have been at work, but rather a conscious creation with all its systems intact.
What all this shows is that the human body resembles a huge factory made up of many small machines that work together in perfect harmony. Just as all factories have a designer, an engineer and a planner, the human body has an “Exalted Creator.”
- a comment i received on youtube.
You are unlikely to receive a genuine debunking or successful refutation. You are more likely to receive rationalizations and easy dismissals. Other things implied by what is stated is the idea of purpose and design, things that are foreign to evolution understood and defined within a naturalistic or materialist context. Purpose and design are the product of mind and intelligence, but that is excluded a priori by naturalistic evolution. In short, you're not allowed to actually follow the evidence where it leads.
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RE: Can someone debunk this
November 4, 2017 at 3:19 am
Howabout you read the thread, buddy
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RE: Can someone debunk this
November 4, 2017 at 3:23 am
(November 4, 2017 at 3:19 am)Quote:KevinM1 Wrote: Howabout you read the thread, buddy
Uh, yeah... that was the basis of my commentary.
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RE: Can someone debunk this
November 4, 2017 at 3:26 am
Then you clearly lack eyes or a brain .
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RE: Can someone debunk this
November 4, 2017 at 3:28 am
(November 4, 2017 at 3:26 am)Quote:Tizheruk Wrote: Then you clearly lack eyes or a brain .
Given that I'm typing and communicating in the English language, your statement is clearly false. So what can I say?
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RE: Can someone debunk this
November 4, 2017 at 4:27 am
(November 4, 2017 at 3:28 am)Odoital77 Wrote: (November 4, 2017 at 3:26 am)
Quote:Tizheruk Wrote: Then you clearly lack eyes or a brain .
Given that I'm typing and communicating in the English language, your statement is clearly false. So what can I say?
Then some other malfunction renders you incapable of seeing the obvious . Oh and blind people can write English. And computers can mindlessly type English . So neither of these fact would prove my statement false . But i'll be generous and grant you this .
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