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Liberals versus Leftists
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 (November 3, 2017 at 11:01 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Why is it offenssive for me to think the place I live is the best place? Because by default it says that anywhere else is inferior. It looks down on the rest of the world. I like where I live, but I also like France as well and Greece was nice, but a lot of people in the US don't say "I Like the US" they say "The US is the best" Imagine you are talking about children. You can like your children, but if you then say your children are the "best in the world" then your going to have an argument. What's wrong with MY kids they'd say, what's make your kids so much better than mine? And it also begs the question what do you mean by best. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. 
Really, by most metrics, Western Europe tends to do better than America in the vast majority of categories (at least depending on how you define doing better.)
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![[Image: harmlesskitchen.png]](https://i.postimg.cc/yxR97P23/harmlesskitchen.png) I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.  (November 3, 2017 at 11:18 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:(November 3, 2017 at 11:01 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Why is it offenssive for me to think the place I live is the best place? I disagree. I don't think it is at all offensive for me to think my husband is the best in the world, my best friend is the best in the world, my family is the best in the world, the color pink is the best in the world, and my country is the best in the world. Those are just my opinions. What may be best to/for me, may not be for someone else. It doesn't mean I "look down" on other people's husbands or families or whatever. Just that I think I have the best for me.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
Nationalism is generally taken to mean something a -bit- stronger than loving ones country or holding a recognized -opinion- of it's greatness as you see it, lol. The one commonly does manifest itself offensively, whilst the other....meh, not so much.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(November 3, 2017 at 11:23 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(November 3, 2017 at 11:18 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Because by default it says that anywhere else is inferior. "Ah best for you" fair enough but just "best". Imagine this scenario. You have a co-worker who each and every day comes in and says loudly how he is the best worker. After a while that would grate. That's America. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. RE: Liberals versus Leftists
November 3, 2017 at 11:32 am
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2017 at 11:34 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Being white and loving my country doesn't make me a white nationalist. White nationalism is offensive, being me...well, probably still offensive but not for the same reasons.
 It's possible to be patriot without also being a dick. Plenty of people confuse the one for the other, I'm sure.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(November 3, 2017 at 11:32 am)Khemikal Wrote: Being white and loving my country doesn't make me a white nationalist. White nationalism is offensive, being me...well, probably still offensive but not for the same reasons. I would say that patriotism is also bad. That's how I feel. I don't think that one country should be considered better, look at the trouble this sort of feeling causes. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.  RE: Liberals versus Leftists
November 3, 2017 at 11:44 am
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2017 at 11:47 am by Catholic_Lady.)
(November 3, 2017 at 11:29 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:(November 3, 2017 at 11:23 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I disagree. I don't think it is at all offensive for me to think my husband is the best in the world, my best friend is the best in the world, my family is the best in the world, the color pink is the best in the world, and my country is the best in the world. Those are just my opinions. What may be best to/for me, may not be for someone else. It doesn't mean I "look down" on other people's husbands or families or whatever. Just that I think I have the best for me. Again, i dont think theres anything wrong with an american thinking that america is the best country. If an American were to go to a different country and loudly proclaim "my country is the best country in the world", then yes, that would be rude. Just as it would be rude if I went up to another wife and said "my husband is the best husband in the world." You can have your opinion without being a dick about it. Thats the same for everything. (November 3, 2017 at 11:37 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:(November 3, 2017 at 11:32 am)Khemikal Wrote: Being white and loving my country doesn't make me a white nationalist. White nationalism is offensive, being me...well, probably still offensive but not for the same reasons. The feeling of counting my blessings and being grateful and being proud of my husband for what he does?? Yep, sounds awful...
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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