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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 7, 2017 at 10:35 am
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2017 at 10:35 am by Mister Agenda.)
Too bad screenshots aren't available, but thanks for digging up what you could.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 7, 2017 at 10:50 am
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(November 7, 2017 at 7:52 am)Brian37 Wrote: (November 7, 2017 at 6:37 am)Aroura Wrote: So, yet again the guns were purchased legally, not black market. In this case, due to an error in criminal reporting on behalf of the Air Force.
Sigh. Not that this fact matters. They are coming to get your guns, go buy moar.
No still, sucky laws that dont vet well. Va Tech shooter also had no record at time of purchase. This guy did have a record so it still remains our vetting sucks both ways.
I am tired of this crap that legal at time of buy means nothing bad will happen after the buy.
Bring this up will allow the nuts on the far right to say, "Not legal buyer's fault that was not caught".
The focus needs to be that we STILL make too many and our vetting sucks.
And the sane need to take away the bullshit narrative from the right that the sane want to ban all firearms. NO, we simply want less firearm deaths and we cant have that when we have a flooded market and sucky vetting laws.
The worst thing our government did were two things. 1. Undid the assault weapons ban. 2. Banned lawsuits against the companies.
Australia had one mass shooting and woke up, when is America going to wake up?
1) I think nominating yourself as spokesperson for all people worried about guns is a bit much. Some people simply want less firearm deaths. Plenty would like all guns to be gone.
2) You get all the checks and lawsuits and laws you want. There's another mass shooting. Do you say "Well, that's the price of freedom. Nothing we could have done." Do you think the 'we' you speak of will ever find any mass shooting as an acceptable risk to living in the US?
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 7, 2017 at 10:58 am
(November 7, 2017 at 10:35 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Too bad screenshots aren't available, but thanks for digging up what you could.
In the age of fake news corroboration is critical.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 7, 2017 at 11:03 am
(November 7, 2017 at 10:35 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Too bad screenshots aren't available, but thanks for digging up what you could.
Yeah, no screen shots, just a few individuals claiming that's how he was like on facebook.
Apparently he volunteered at a bible study class once in 2014. Bizarre.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 7, 2017 at 11:08 am
Lot's of hearsay/fake news going around.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 7, 2017 at 11:38 am
(November 7, 2017 at 6:37 am)Aroura Wrote: So, yet again the guns were purchased legally, not black market. In this case, due to an error in criminal reporting on behalf of the Air Force.
Sigh. Not that this fact matters. They are coming to get your guns, go buy moar.
It's a federal felony for a prohibited person to even attempt to possess a firearm, regardless of what the background check reports. In addition, someone who purchases a firearm through otherwise legal channels commits perjury in doing so (this has been the case since 1968). https://www.atf.gov/file/61446/download
Not that this excuses the AF's negligence in the matter, or makes things right, or that I otherwise disagree with you, but to suggest that this was a legal purchase is incorrect.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 7, 2017 at 11:42 am
(November 6, 2017 at 9:41 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (November 6, 2017 at 9:38 am)Brian37 Wrote: I don't care. 2 years ago an atheist shot and murdered 3 Muslims here in North Carolina. I DON'T CARE
Pulse, Muslim motivated.
Va Tech, Mental illness
Newtown, Mental defect
Roof, Racist......
What did they all have in common?
ACCESS TO FIREARMS.
I could give a shit less if this guy was a Christian, Muslim or atheist. I DON'T FUCKING CARE. What I do care about is they got their hands on firearms and murdered tons of people.
I agree with you about gun control. I also think it's important to know the motive though. It helps bring closure to what happened, and helps us find warning signs for future prevention.
C/L - some people are just crazy. Good luck figuring out their motive.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 7, 2017 at 12:09 pm
If we truly understood crazy, that would be a strong indicator that we were crazy.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 7, 2017 at 12:30 pm
Heard this morning from a member that knew a victim that "god was in control" and "it was gods will". As you can imagine I don't understand this.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Another mass shooting.....
November 7, 2017 at 12:32 pm
(November 7, 2017 at 12:30 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Heard this morning from a member that knew a victim that "god was in control" and "it was gods will". As you can imagine I don't understand this.
Neither does the person who said it.
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