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Paul Ryan Criticized over "Thoughts and Prayers" Comment
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RE: Paul Ryan Criticized over "Thoughts and Prayers" Comment
(November 7, 2017 at 4:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: What's wrong with offering thoughts and prayers?

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RE: Paul Ryan Criticized over "Thoughts and Prayers" Comment
Because that's all any interested party seems to be willing to offer, and it didn't do anything the last time, nor will it do anything the next time. Or, you know, because we're all a bunch of anti-christian antifa agitators.

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RE: Paul Ryan Criticized over "Thoughts and Prayers" Comment
(November 7, 2017 at 2:31 pm)Secular Elf Wrote: Excuse me, but when religious people claim that their imaginary friend is so damn powerful that he, she, it can create an entire universe from nothing
How was it that the universe came into existence from nothing?
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RE: Paul Ryan Criticized over "Thoughts and Prayers" Comment
(November 7, 2017 at 4:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: What's wrong with offering thoughts and prayers?

The people who died were all Christian, obviously. If it brings any sense of peace or comfort to their families to be offered prayers, then why would anyone have a problem with it?

It's bullshit and does ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY NOTHING to solve the problem. 

There are bullet-riddled bodies across the breadth of this country every day and all the thinking and praying in the world isn't going to stop it.
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RE: Paul Ryan Criticized over "Thoughts and Prayers" Comment
Again, even if prayer doesn't "work", why take issue with it if it's bringing a sense of comfort to someone who just lost their family member? Let these people have their comfort. They just lost someone they love in a horrible way.
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RE: Paul Ryan Criticized over "Thoughts and Prayers" Comment
Ryan: Prayers to the victims and their families.
Badass on Internet: Fuck your prayers!
Southern Baptists: Actually, we really like prayers and knowing that people are...
BoI: Shut up idiot, this isn't about you!
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RE: Paul Ryan Criticized over "Thoughts and Prayers" Comment
(November 7, 2017 at 4:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: What's wrong with offering thoughts and prayers?

The people who died were all Christian, obviously. If it brings any sense of peace or comfort to their families to be offered prayers, then why would anyone have a problem with it?

In my view, there isn't anything wrong with it, except when thoughts and prayers are offered in lieu of doing anything else.
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RE: Paul Ryan Criticized over "Thoughts and Prayers" Comment
(November 7, 2017 at 5:38 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(November 7, 2017 at 4:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: What's wrong with offering thoughts and prayers?

The people who died were all Christian, obviously. If it brings any sense of peace or comfort to their families to be offered prayers, then why would anyone have a problem with it?

In my view, there isn't anything wrong with it, except when thoughts and prayers are offered in lieu of doing anything else.

I would agree with that.

(November 7, 2017 at 5:23 pm)wallym Wrote: Ryan: Prayers to the victims and their families.
Badass on Internet: Fuck your prayers!
Southern Baptists: Actually, we really like prayers and knowing that people are...
BoI: Shut up idiot, this isn't about you!

Yeah pretty much.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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RE: Paul Ryan Criticized over "Thoughts and Prayers" Comment
(November 7, 2017 at 5:38 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(November 7, 2017 at 4:24 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: What's wrong with offering thoughts and prayers?

The people who died were all Christian, obviously. If it brings any sense of peace or comfort to their families to be offered prayers, then why would anyone have a problem with it?

In my view, there isn't anything wrong with it, except when thoughts and prayers are offered in lieu of doing anything else.

How do you know that's all they're offering? There are scores of Catholic and other Christian charities in addition to individual Christians who not only pray but also help with money and aid. How many athiest charities are there?
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RE: Paul Ryan Criticized over "Thoughts and Prayers" Comment
(November 7, 2017 at 5:18 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Again, even if prayer doesn't "work", why take issue with it if it's bringing a sense of comfort to someone who just lost their family member? Let these people have their comfort. They just lost someone they love in a horrible way.

Because that is all some people ever do.

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