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Theism is literally childish
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(November 13, 2017 at 1:43 pm)alpha male Wrote:(November 13, 2017 at 1:26 pm)Mathilda Wrote: I see that Alpha is in full on denial mode now and deliberately misrepresenting what I said. Yea, said the one who defends a book written by scientifically ignorant humans, took over 1,000 years and 40 authors to write with books left out. You got us, donkeys and snakes talk, God was on Maury yesterday and proved he was the father of the baby. God is going to back that up too and go on Jerry Springer and confront Joseph too. Quote:(November 13, 2017 at 9:11 am)alpha male Wrote:(November 12, 2017 at 11:58 pm)emjay Wrote: Maybe it is but it is nonetheless how I feel. I do not have a burning desire to fill every gap, and do not lose any sleep over not knowing the answer to certain questions, only the questions that are important to me. Frankly alpha, I'm sick and tired of this argument. Take that as you will, as I already said, was entirely your prerogative, but I have no intention of arguing from now until Christmas with someone hellbent on equivocating at every turn; if you really, truly, see magic (ie supernatural... unexplainable, unaddressable, and unfalsifiable by science) as equally plausible, if not more, than physical evidence then there's nothing more I can say; the gap between our thinking is just too wide to ever be breached. So let's leave this where we started; you can think I'm deluded or a hypocrite, or whatever else you think... and that's entirely your prerogative. But that does not change the fact that I believe you, and other theists like you, are deluded in your beliefs... and as such, to the extent that you recommend descent into the same delusion as a means to find god, all I can say is 'no thanks'... that has literally no rational appeal to me as it is a self-fulfilling prophesy and I will not willfully walk into one. RE: Theism is literally childish
November 13, 2017 at 1:53 pm
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(November 13, 2017 at 12:58 pm)possibletarian Wrote:(November 13, 2017 at 12:22 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Adding to what Neo said about the bible... There are thousands of different denominations of Christianity across the world, but with the exception of small frindge groups, their differences are mostly small nuances. The fundamental Christian principles themselves are almost universally the same, despite the claim that interpretation of scripture is supposedly extremely subjective, and that the bible, in its entirety, doesn't provide an overall testimony. It very much does. And yet they one and all believe that we should love the Lord above all things and our neighbor as oneself. Funny, how that works. (November 13, 2017 at 1:23 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I've never met or ever even heard of a Christian denomination who doesn't believe in free will, but the fact that they may exist doesn't negate my point. Pretty much all Calvinists, including Presbyterians. RE: Theism is literally childish
November 13, 2017 at 1:55 pm
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(November 9, 2017 at 2:42 pm)alpha male Wrote: Or more commonly threads regarding depression and other mental illness have historically had a lot of participants. I'm 100% positive that having a mental illness does not mean that you have a "miserable personal life." I have exactly the personal life I want. Sure, I'd love to have fewer panic attacks, but that doesn't affect my personal life. (November 9, 2017 at 3:30 pm)alpha male Wrote:(November 9, 2017 at 3:15 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: Thanks for your clarification, and please excuse my incorrect inference. Is it reasonable to say that it is ultimately up to the particular individual to determine whether he or she has a miserable or happy personal life? Just as I easily misunderstood your post, perhaps the misery that some people are experiencing is just the normal baggage that comes with being human, and overall, they have their source of happiness, fulfillment, and meaning that drives them to live and be productive in their own way. You're going to fall off that limb. Depression doesn't make someone permanently unhappy. RE: Theism is literally childish
November 13, 2017 at 1:58 pm
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(November 13, 2017 at 1:47 pm)emjay Wrote: Frankly alpha, I'm sick and tired of this argument. Take that as you will, as I already said, was entirely your prerogative, but I have no intention of arguing from now until Christmas with someone hellbent on equivocating at every turn; if you really, truly, see magic (ie supernatural... unexplainable, unaddressable, and unfalsifiable by science) as equally plausible, if not more, than physical evidence then there's nothing more I can say; the gap between our thinking is just too wide to ever be breached. That's bullshit, as in this area you don't have evidence. As noted, the evidence is stacked against you. Quote:So let's leave this where we started; you can think I'm deluded or a hypocrite, or whatever else you think... Hypocrite. As I said, I don't see either side as deluded. And I don't try to get around it by saying that certain people aren't deluded, but show all the symptoms or whatever of delusion. That was cheap. Quote:and that's entirely your prerogative. But that does not change the fact that I believe you, and other theists like you, are deluded in your beliefs... Well at least now you're being honest. Quote:and as such, to the extent that you recommend descent into the same delusion as a means to find god, all I can say is 'no thanks'... that has literally no rational appeal to me as it is a self-fulfilling prophesy and I will not willfully walk into one. I'm not recommending it. Do whatever you like. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. (November 13, 2017 at 1:49 pm)Shell B Wrote:(November 9, 2017 at 10:31 am)alpha male Wrote: If the atheists on this site are what you consider mature adults, I'll take being a child, thanks. Why would you think I'm here to make friends? (November 13, 2017 at 1:55 pm)Shell B Wrote: I'm 100% positive that having a mental illness does not mean that you have a "miserable personal life." I have exactly the personal life I want. Sure, I'd love to have fewer panic attacks, but that doesn't affect my personal life. In such threads, the people are generally discussing means of curing or at least coping. Maybe next time you can pop in to tell them that their apparent sufffering isn't suffering at all. Quote:You're going to fall off that limb. Depression doesn't make someone permanently unhappy. Pretty much makes them unhappy by definition while they have it, don'tcha think? RE: Theism is literally childish
November 13, 2017 at 2:03 pm
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(November 9, 2017 at 5:01 pm)alpha male Wrote:(November 9, 2017 at 8:43 am)Mathilda Wrote: Growing up and maturing isn't just a physical development, but a mental one as well. The child learns to ask questions, not to believe everything they are told, to make their own decisions and moral judgments and to take responsibility for their actions. They slowly become more independent by being safely exposed to a world of danger until they can look after themselves. I mean, seriously, fuck you. I'd go with thoughtful discussion, but you're so far down the rabbit hole, it's pointless, so fuck you. Quote:Why would you think I'm here to make friends? I don't think that. I think you're probably a Poe and definitely a cunt. Quote:In such threads, the people are generally discussing means of curing or at least coping. Maybe next time you can pop in to tell them that their apparent sufffering isn't suffering at all. You shouldn't smoke crack for breakfast. These people are talking about coping with a facet of their health, not the entirety of their personal lives. Quote:Pretty much makes them unhappy by definition while they have it, don'tcha think? No. Depression doesn't make a person unhappy by definition. Meet people, make friends or just read. You can learn more about the things of which you are ignorant, you know. RE: Theism is literally childish
November 13, 2017 at 2:09 pm
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Quote:(November 13, 2017 at 1:58 pm)alpha male Wrote:(November 13, 2017 at 1:47 pm)emjay Wrote: Frankly alpha, I'm sick and tired of this argument. Take that as you will, as I already said, was entirely your prerogative, but I have no intention of arguing from now until Christmas with someone hellbent on equivocating at every turn; if you really, truly, see magic (ie supernatural... unexplainable, unaddressable, and unfalsifiable by science) as equally plausible, if not more, than physical evidence then there's nothing more I can say; the gap between our thinking is just too wide to ever be breached. As I said, think what you want, but I'm done here. RE: Theism is literally childish
November 13, 2017 at 2:11 pm
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(November 13, 2017 at 1:55 pm)Shell B Wrote:(November 9, 2017 at 2:42 pm)alpha male Wrote: Or more commonly threads regarding depression and other mental illness have historically had a lot of participants. Recovery could actually be fun and make you appreciate all sorts of things people take for granted at a much higher level. If we are cursed with curses, it is only to come out with higher blessings when we persevere and resolve ourselves. I may have the jack of all curses but I have jack of all blessings as well and blessings that only came as a result of the curses I had to endure and still enduring. Thank you ShellB for sticking up for the mentally ill. |
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