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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 27, 2017 at 2:20 pm
(November 27, 2017 at 2:04 pm)Chad32 Wrote: They have to use the bible, because that's about all the information they have. Everything else is sparce, and mostly written by people talking about what the followers happen to believe. Not something that had heavy concrete evidence thousands of years ago. It's notable that you can travel and see the code of Hammurabi statue, but not the original ten commandments tablets.
I get that but why play their game in here & dance to their tune?
they claim so just ask for evidence
the bible isn't so re-ask
after 3 x of asking with none given close the topic
im starting to feeling this forums 75% social club & 25% a theist ego trip
might re evaluate the point of it tbh
flame away if it pleases you but that's how I feel
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 27, 2017 at 2:51 pm
(November 27, 2017 at 2:20 pm)chorlton Wrote: (November 27, 2017 at 2:04 pm)Chad32 Wrote: They have to use the bible, because that's about all the information they have. Everything else is sparce, and mostly written by people talking about what the followers happen to believe. Not something that had heavy concrete evidence thousands of years ago. It's notable that you can travel and see the code of Hammurabi statue, but not the original ten commandments tablets.
I get that but why play their game in here & dance to their tune?
they claim so just ask for evidence
the bible isn't so re-ask
after 3 x of asking with none given close the topic
im starting to feeling this forums 75% social club & 25% a theist ego trip
might re evaluate the point of it tbh
flame away if it pleases you but that's how I feel I consider your feeling wrong.
This site has a sub-population of theists prepared to fight their corner.
This site has a value in pointing out that Atheists can fight their corner too and are far more effective at it.
Other confused people emerging from the miasma that is religious faith may benefit.
Consider what would happen were there no opposition to the baseless godly superstitions (thousands of those). Not only would the interwebs be over-run, religious laws would be enshrined in constitutions. In the west, it would be christian rules. In the far east it would be Hindu/buddhist rules, In the mid-east it would be islamic rules and so forth. All of them would claim to be the only "right way" and all of them would be wrong. And all of them would be at war.
Is that what you want? Or would you prefer a secular government which makes no determination and holds no preference for any particular religion so long as you chuck no bombs at your neighbours?
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 27, 2017 at 2:56 pm
(November 27, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (November 27, 2017 at 2:20 pm)chorlton Wrote: I get that but why play their game in here & dance to their tune?
they claim so just ask for evidence
the bible isn't so re-ask
after 3 x of asking with none given close the topic
im starting to feeling this forums 75% social club & 25% a theist ego trip
might re evaluate the point of it tbh
flame away if it pleases you but that's how I feel I consider your feeling wrong.
This site has a sub-population of theists prepared to fight their corner.
This site has a value in pointing out that Atheists can fight their corner too and are far more effective at it.
Other confused people emerging from the miasma that is religious faith may benefit.
Consider what would happen were there no opposition to the baseless godly superstitions (thousands of those). Not only would the interwebs be over-run, religious laws would be enshrined in constitutions. In the west, it would be christian rules. In the far east it would be Hindu/buddhist rules, In the mid-east it would be islamic rules and so forth. All of them would claim to be the only "right way" and all of them would be wrong. And all of them would be at war.
Is that what you want? Or would you prefer a secular government which makes no determination and holds no preference for any particular religion so long as you chuck no bombs at your neighbours?
is that what you want?
well, is it?
yeah mate, im out with that type of talking
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 27, 2017 at 3:22 pm
(November 27, 2017 at 2:56 pm)chorlton Wrote: is that what you want?
well, is it? Yes. Why would one not? Is it your desire that the superstitious continue to run down the rabbit hole of superstition? Are you content and happy that religious nonsense becomes the law of the land? Should rational people simply keel over and give in when confronted with such abject rubbish?
No thanks. I prefer to tackle them on their home ground, irrational as it may be, because simple logic defeats the thousands of claimed gods.
You seem to prefer to climb into some imaginary bunker and complain. I don't know, in that case why you joined here. The whole point is to present a rational counter to the god-botherers. It is quite likely that no convert will be forthcoming, nevertheless, there is a population of the confused to whom sites like this have value.
Others are reading. There is no doubt that some of those readers are folks who are confused by the nonsense that is religion. Who are we to deny those people the truth? Who are we to allow the religious free reign to inflict their superstitions upon the gullible?
(November 27, 2017 at 2:56 pm)chorlton Wrote: yeah mate, im out with that type of talking OK you are scared to step up and own your atheism. That is OK. I can understand that. Many have to be closet atheists because of circumstance. That is not your fault.
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 27, 2017 at 3:37 pm
(November 27, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (November 27, 2017 at 2:56 pm)chorlton Wrote: is that what you want?
well, is it? Yes. Why would one not? Is it your desire that the superstitious continue to run down the rabbit hole of superstition? Are you content and happy that religious nonsense becomes the law of the land? Should rational people simply keel over and give in when confronted with such abject rubbish?
No thanks. I prefer to tackle them on their home ground, irrational as it may be, because simple logic defeats the thousands of claimed gods.
You seem to prefer to climb into some imaginary bunker and complain. I don't know, in that case why you joined here. The whole point is to present a rational counter to the god-botherers. It is quite likely that no convert will be forthcoming, nevertheless, there is a population of the confused to whom sites like this have value.
Others are reading. There is no doubt that some of those readers are folks who are confused by the nonsense that is religion. Who are we to deny those people the truth? Who are we to allow the religious free reign to inflict their superstitions upon the gullible?
(November 27, 2017 at 2:56 pm)chorlton Wrote: yeah mate, im out with that type of talking OK you are scared to step up and own your atheism. That is OK. I can understand that. Many have to be closet atheists because of circumstance. That is not your fault. yeah im so sacared of pish you type
please make up more bollocks youd be too sacred to say
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 27, 2017 at 3:39 pm
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 27, 2017 at 3:47 pm
(This post was last modified: November 27, 2017 at 3:49 pm by Abaddon_ire.)
(November 27, 2017 at 3:37 pm)chorlton Wrote: (November 27, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Yes. Why would one not? Is it your desire that the superstitious continue to run down the rabbit hole of superstition? Are you content and happy that religious nonsense becomes the law of the land? Should rational people simply keel over and give in when confronted with such abject rubbish?
No thanks. I prefer to tackle them on their home ground, irrational as it may be, because simple logic defeats the thousands of claimed gods.
You seem to prefer to climb into some imaginary bunker and complain. I don't know, in that case why you joined here. The whole point is to present a rational counter to the god-botherers. It is quite likely that no convert will be forthcoming, nevertheless, there is a population of the confused to whom sites like this have value.
Others are reading. There is no doubt that some of those readers are folks who are confused by the nonsense that is religion. Who are we to deny those people the truth? Who are we to allow the religious free reign to inflict their superstitions upon the gullible?
OK you are scared to step up and own your atheism. That is OK. I can understand that. Many have to be closet atheists because of circumstance. That is not your fault. yeah im so sacared of pish you type
please make up more bollocks youd be too sacred to say This gets more strange.
I'm an atheist. I believe in NO god/s of any sort or description. No any supernatural shenanigans of any description.
Somehow, you find this personally offensive because...I have no idea why that might be.
(November 27, 2017 at 3:39 pm)Khemikal Wrote: 
Make two.
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 27, 2017 at 3:50 pm
(This post was last modified: November 27, 2017 at 3:50 pm by chorlton.)
(November 27, 2017 at 3:47 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (November 27, 2017 at 3:37 pm)chorlton Wrote: yeah im so sacared of pish you type
please make up more bollocks youd be too sacred to say This gets more strange.
I'm an atheist. I believe in NO god/s of any sort or description. No any supernatural shenanigans of any description.
Somehow, you find this personally offensive because...I have no idea why that might be. I get it & its ok
youre weak so you claim others get offended
offence is taken not given so unfortunately you cant claim it for me
give yer mum a call so she can help you do the next witty retort
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 27, 2017 at 3:53 pm
(November 27, 2017 at 3:50 pm)chorlton Wrote: (November 27, 2017 at 3:47 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: This gets more strange.
I'm an atheist. I believe in NO god/s of any sort or description. No any supernatural shenanigans of any description.
Somehow, you find this personally offensive because...I have no idea why that might be. I get it & its ok
youre weak so you claim others get offended
offence is taken not given so unfortunately you cant claim it for me
give yer mum a call so she can help you do the next witty retort My "mum" died ten years ago. Are you suggesting I engage in the crankery of "spirit mediums"?
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RE: How do you reconcile your god, the mass murderer?
November 27, 2017 at 3:54 pm
(This post was last modified: November 27, 2017 at 3:59 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
There's utility in showing that some persons superstitious belief is not only ridiculous on it's face...but even more ridiculous within the generous limits of self reference.
So, ofc there's no justice fairy in the sky..but if there were, and it was in the business of convicting and sentencing evil..the first order of business would have to be falling on it's own sword. If the faithful choose to believe in such a thing as righteous and lethal condemnation, then there is no character more deserving of punishment than the one they worship. For some, this realization would be an uncomfortable truth...and it features in a great many deconversion stories (we have a subforum, go check it out). For others, it's not a problem..as we've seen in thread. They're more than willing to excuse mundane evil, and so it's just not a problem for their god anyway- but even allowing those believers to show this allows others to form a more accurate opinion of the faith and it's faithful.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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