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RE: How do religious people justify raising and slaughtering animals for food?
November 30, 2017 at 12:10 pm
(November 30, 2017 at 11:24 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (November 30, 2017 at 9:33 am)Industrial Lad Wrote: Also, why does(did?) god like animals killed and burned in his name? You would think an all powerful being would find better things than that to be impressed by.
It's a form of sympathetic magic. In those times, blood was synonymous with life, the essence of a living being. By ritually sacrificing and burning the flesh, you thereby transfer the power of the animals blood, its life force, to the deity to whom it is sacrificed. It's like giving the equivalent of gold in terms of what an entity that is spirit would desire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_magic
It makes sense in a mystical way but not a logical way. But then Christianity and religion is often highly illogical. That's not to say logic is never employed. Sometimes, I think they really wanted their rules to be beneficial. Other times they just wanted people to feel guilty to keep them in it and so they'd hand over more cash.
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RE: How do religious people justify raising and slaughtering animals for food?
November 30, 2017 at 12:22 pm
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Internal logic. Applying internal logic to a duad model of the cosmos presents a coherent and compelling rationalization.
As above, so below. On earth as it is in heaven. Hurt the doll, hurt the man. Feed the representation, sustain the apparition. Goes all the way back to our earliest noticeable beliefs in the hereafter. Another world like this world, with analogs to this world and even overlap - holy places where we locate altars as open gates to the other. A place where an axe from this world is useful and effective in the next, and where a charm or totem given from that world is imbued with unnatural ability in this.
God, in the narrative, goes so far as to give them an architectural schematic for building the door.
(November 30, 2017 at 12:09 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: In the wild; they -the animals- eat us immediately, in the most terrible way possible.
They literally chop us to pieces.
But they don't hunt us for fun. We should repay them the same treatment. Animals do hunt for sport, actually. They even go to war.
Quote:They don't lock us as pets. We should pay them the same treatment and never enslave them if it was ever going to harm them.
The don't eat a "Double human with cheese". i.e they never overeat us. We shouldn't get fat on their flesh also.
They do that too..some of the most interesting relationships amount to livestock operations...and successful predators are enthusiastic eaters. We overeat for the same reason they glut themselves. We both come from a time when our next meal wasn't scheduled. It;s absurd to think that animals don't do this or that that we do..we -are- animals...we share evolutionary compulsions and in similar situations express many of the same behaviors. Zoo keepers have to watch the diet of their charges..not only because of their sedentary lives, but because they will overeat even when scheduled. Fat tigers are just as much a thing as fat dogs or cats....or people. The nuerobiology associated with satisfaction in eating in human beings is common to all mammalian predators. We all eat because it feels good..even when we don't need to, if we can.
Quote:Other than that; plants are also alive. So vegetarians aren't that cool if you think about it
Hehe, already knew that. What I want to ask, in any of the above..is why it would matter what happens in nature? Does something being natural make it moral -or- immoral?
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RE: How do religious people justify raising and slaughtering animals for food?
December 1, 2017 at 5:20 am
3 Genesis 1 : 29 God said, | I have given you every plant with seeds on the face of the earth and every tree that has fruits with seeds. This will be your food. If this are the real words of God then Christians got it very very wrong.
Smart theists however avoid meat as hell. Glad to be one of them. Why would I turn my body-mind and soul into a deposit of excrement considering that meat is loaded with saturated fats, cholesterol and toxins?
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RE: How do religious people justify raising and slaughtering animals for food?
December 1, 2017 at 10:14 am
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-because nuts and berries lack a certain baconyness, for starters. I'm not a squirrel. I do, however, eat them. Little bastards eat my walnuts, I even caught one shaking my beans and corn at the base like a gorilla. Way I see it, the fuckers owe me.
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RE: How do religious people justify raising and slaughtering animals for food?
December 1, 2017 at 10:18 am
I've never had nuts or berries as a starter. I've had them for pudding though.
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RE: How do religious people justify raising and slaughtering animals for food?
December 1, 2017 at 10:58 pm
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RE: How do religious people justify raising and slaughtering animals for food?
December 1, 2017 at 11:06 pm
(December 1, 2017 at 10:14 am)Khemikal Wrote: -because nuts and berries lack a certain baconyness, for starters. I'm not a squirrel. I do, however, eat them. Little bastards eat my walnuts, I even caught one shaking my beans and corn at the base like a gorilla. Way I see it, the fuckers owe me.
My dad grew up on a farm in rural Minnesota. One of his favorite things was squirrel gravy. He'd hunt them especially for the flavor. I've never eaten squirrel. though. My dad's family was as poor as piss on a plate, so I'll bet they ate the rest of the squirrel, as well.
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RE: How do religious people justify raising and slaughtering animals for food?
December 1, 2017 at 11:17 pm
You can find every thing that you find in meat in fruits, nuts, beans, vegies, root foods without all the crap that you find in meat. Why eat crap when you can avoid it?
Is just behind me! Why turn your body into a deposit for excrements? It just puzzle me how some people are so so stupid!
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RE: How do religious people justify raising and slaughtering animals for food?
December 1, 2017 at 11:24 pm
(December 1, 2017 at 11:06 pm)Fireball Wrote: My dad grew up on a farm in rural Minnesota. One of his favorite things was squirrel gravy. He'd hunt them especially for the flavor. I've never eaten squirrel. though. My dad's family was as poor as piss on a plate, so I'll bet they ate the rest of the squirrel, as well.
Greasy dark meat chicken, basically. You;re probably not missing much. They won't exactly give you a mouthgasm. They're bushy rats.
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RE: How do religious people justify raising and slaughtering animals for food?
December 1, 2017 at 11:25 pm
(December 1, 2017 at 11:06 pm)Fireball Wrote: (December 1, 2017 at 10:14 am)Khemikal Wrote: -because nuts and berries lack a certain baconyness, for starters. I'm not a squirrel. I do, however, eat them. Little bastards eat my walnuts, I even caught one shaking my beans and corn at the base like a gorilla. Way I see it, the fuckers owe me.
My dad grew up on a farm in rural Minnesota. One of his favorite things was squirrel gravy. He'd hunt them especially for the flavor. I've never eaten squirrel. though. My dad's family was as poor as piss on a plate, so I'll bet they ate the rest of the squirrel, as well.
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