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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
January 26, 2018 at 4:50 pm
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(January 26, 2018 at 4:42 pm)Banned Wrote: (January 26, 2018 at 4:33 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Oh, I’ve read it. You didn’t answer my question though. Are the facts that it’s a very old book, and that it makes god claims, good reasons to consider it true?
Yes. Correct. What I’m asking is, what reason is there to believe that it is? If there is no good reason to believe that it is, then we can rationally dismiss its claims. Harry Potter is either true or not true, and I don’t think you’d argue with me on that one, regardless of whether or not you’ve read it, right?
If you've read it, why are you asking me?
Because you believe that it is true, and I’d like to know what your reasons are. I mean...you are a Christian, here, on an atheist forum. I think it’s a pretty reasonable question, don’t you?
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
January 26, 2018 at 4:54 pm
I can verify much of the Bible is definitely from God.
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
January 26, 2018 at 4:55 pm
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Can you now, lol? What do you do, call him up on the batphone for comment? Go through it line by line with a highlighter in one hand and the horn in the other?
Point of interest, which parts of magic book do you think -aren't- from "god"?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
January 26, 2018 at 5:07 pm
(January 26, 2018 at 4:54 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I can verify much of the Bible is definitely from God.
Let me guess; something about objective value, plus Koran verses?
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
January 26, 2018 at 5:13 pm
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(January 26, 2018 at 5:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (January 26, 2018 at 4:54 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I can verify much of the Bible is definitely from God.
Let me guess; something about objective value, plus Koran verses?
A better expresser of the name of God than I can ever be, wrapped up the truth of God's Mastery over humans through his appointed ones and names, in a subtle narrative, leading from beginning to the end, and the Quran comments on it, so you can see much of it is from God and why it must be from God.
The Quran and Bible compliment one another and the Tao also complements them, there is perhaps many holy books from God misinterpreted or mistranslated all over the earth.
I can't rely on people who say they study and love the truths of the book they cherish the most in the religion as authorities, for some of them are authorities over others, and those authorities they take have taken religion as a mockery and game, and the proof of that is the money they demand from the people to become the center of the attention of some people rather directing people to the appointed ones, the anointed ones, those who are the path and way, the family of the reminder, morning star, the door of God, the guide on earth.
And it also verifies the Native American narrative in summary in many ways. Of course religions differ in details but they compliment each other on how they prove God and his Mastery over humans.
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
January 26, 2018 at 5:17 pm
(January 26, 2018 at 4:50 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (January 26, 2018 at 4:42 pm)Banned Wrote: If you've read it, why are you asking me?
Because you believe that it is true, and I’d like to know what your reasons are. I mean...you are a Christian, here, on an atheist forum. I think it’s a pretty reasonable question, don’t you?
That's a fair request.
I can't remember the exact sequence of events in my life, but at age 4 I was introduced to whom I understood was God, through nature, without the influence of people or church. I was born into a situation of considerable suffering, to say the least, and this experience would prove to be my sanity and assurance throughout life. It was as if I came out of the dark into the light, from fear, pain and confusion to color, love and protection.
I began to read the Bible around that age, by my own choice and interest. So I don't really know what it is like to be seeking evidence, seeing that the natural world was clearly an example of power, integrity and intelligence.
The evidence for the Bible is what God is to me personally. The kindness and passionate interest in my spiritual welfare, temporal needs and future.
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
January 26, 2018 at 5:18 pm
Banned, may you be continue to be guided.
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
January 26, 2018 at 5:30 pm
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(January 26, 2018 at 5:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Banned, may you be continue to be guided.
Same to you. Come to my place in heaven.
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
January 26, 2018 at 7:01 pm
(January 26, 2018 at 5:30 pm)Banned Wrote: (January 26, 2018 at 5:18 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Banned, may you be continue to be guided.
Same to you. Come to my place in heaven.
Why does the utterly bizarre idea of drone sex in one of Iain Banks' Culture novels spring to mind?
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Admitting You're a Sinner
January 26, 2018 at 7:33 pm
(January 26, 2018 at 7:01 pm)Succubus Wrote: (January 26, 2018 at 5:30 pm)Banned Wrote: Same to you. Come to my place in heaven.
Why does the utterly bizarre idea of drone sex in one of Iain Banks' Culture novels spring to mind?
Can you answer that?
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