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Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist

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Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 1:30 pm
Saying that someone could have left isn't blaming them. There's nothing to blame her for. She wasn't assaulted.
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 1:37 pm (This post was last modified: January 17, 2018 at 1:38 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Like I said earlier, just for clarity..I don't think he'll do any time..but if people..knowing what they now know about Aziz Ansari..don't want to pay for his comedy specials anymore..as far as I'm concerned, he can pound sand.

@Shell. Right, you and I think so, or at least that if she was it's not something that would stick. She seems to have a different opinion, right?
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 1:37 pm
(January 16, 2018 at 4:41 pm)J a c k Wrote: I don’t want sex, if it goes like this:
Person A: I want to have sex with you. Do you consent?
Person B: I consent. Where do I sign?

I want it to build up to the moment. Don’t want the sex? Say something. Refuse. Don’t give the dude oral sex and expect him to get the hint. Already did it and want to stop? Say it. Say you’re done. Make it clear. Women have a voice and we can use it. If we’re clear enough and they still push back, then there’s no doubt. It’s assault. If we go down this path, we’ll be needing consent forms. No, thanks.

I’m not blaming the girl, btw. I just fail to see how this dude is a predator.

I agree 100%

P.S. I think if society DOES go down this route:

Quote:Person A: I want to have sex with you. Do you consent?
Person B: I consent. Where do I sign?

... then I may never get an erection again! Tongue

That's like robot sex or something lol.

I adore robots. Don't get me wrong. I think robots are awesome. But they are NOT sexy. Lol.
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 1:38 pm
Who would have paid for them to begin with?
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 1:41 pm (This post was last modified: January 17, 2018 at 1:41 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(January 16, 2018 at 4:44 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(January 16, 2018 at 4:41 pm)J a c k Wrote: I’m not blaming the girl, btw. I just fail to see how this dude is a predator.

He chased a girl around the house applying the claw and asking her where she wanted to be fucked until she..by her own account, just lost her damned mind and blew him, lol.  That's how.  There's a fair bit of leeway between predatory behavior and what can get you collared for a rape.  

Do the ladies not know this?  Wink

What's the claw?

And woah I did NOT read about him chasing any girl around on the OP. Okay he's totes a predator then. Lol.

All I read was that they were having sex and she never told him to stop but she decided afterwards that it wasn't very fun so she decided to accuse him of rape. It takes two to have good sex! It's not like bad sex is 100% the guy's fault. Nor is "I didn't enjoy it" grounds for "So I guess he must have raped me then."

If the dude chased her around demanding sex until she gave in... then that totally is sexual assault.
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 1:42 pm
(January 17, 2018 at 1:30 pm)Shell B Wrote: She wasn't assaulted.

See, I am not as confident about this as you are. I wasn't there so I can't make that judgment, I do not have enough information. I don't think she consented to any of it, but it's a gray story for sure.
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 1:42 pm
He didnt chase her around the house.
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 1:43 pm (This post was last modified: January 17, 2018 at 1:47 pm by Mermaid.)
(January 17, 2018 at 1:42 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: He didnt chase her around the house.

From her account, he did.

"But the main thing was that he wouldn’t let her move away from him. She compared the path they cut across his apartment to a football play. “It was 30 minutes of me getting up and moving and him following and sticking his fingers down my throat again. It was really repetitive. It felt like a fucking game."
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 1:44 pm
All I have is her testimony to go off of, which very well may have been editorialized by the arguably biased journalist who wrote the story. Based on that, I don't think she was assaulted. However, if something was left out, clearly I'd have to reexamine my position.

Hammy, you can read the article. She wasn't "chased."
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RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 1:44 pm
Thats not how i read it at all.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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