Why some humans are so evil: double standards and irreligion

[WinterHold]

Not really. Your cherry-picked what you wanted to see from my words only.

When did I say that all humans "deserve to be killed"?
Ironically; you ignored this line from my OP:


I specified who I see deserving death.
Add to that, that I'm a Muslim. I already believe in a verse my constitution has, that said "an eye for an eye". So you can't kill that who didn't kill.

Unlike nationalists who see that "even civilians living in an other country are legitimate targets in the case of war".

Actually; tactical bombing and atomic weapons -and the ownership of your government to them- makes your post pretty ironic.
The terrorist is the monster piloting that plane. Not me. I get bombed with the other sand slaves.

if there is anything about America, at least with our far right, is the "kill em all". I want to throat punch these fuckers because regardless of going after the perps, innocent civilians still get caught up in it regardless. Now, I am not saying America should always stay out of something. It is bad enough humans get to the point of war, but damn, lets not glorify it. 

It is the same bullshit with Mexicans too, "Deport them all!". And all I can think about are my Hispanic neighbors whom have never given me a lick of trouble. 

War sucks, death sucks, and humans can be cruel to each other. But carpet assumption of guilt and scapegoating an entire label doesn't solve shit, and innocent humans get hurt when people think like that.

Generalization is a very wrong thing; lots of people have nothing to do with politics, many Americans for example have nothing to do with most acts of war.
That's why I'm against tactical bombing and nukes. Generalization is wrong.

For Mexicans; the poor have no voice. But I'm sure that the Cartel assholes are not letting a single one of them get away if they steal or don't pay ransoms and fines. And on the other side; the rightist assholes want to build a wall to prevent poor Mexicans from running away from the hell of corruption; gangs and brutal fate.

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See the point I am trying to make is that religious ideals are not exactly the same as other ideals because with other ideals people are choosing the ideals of their own volition entirely, bad people are drawn to bad ideals and vice-versa, but with religious ideals, even good people can come under the influence of bad ideals quite easily because they have been conditioned to be "submissive to authority".

I would argue that a person still chooses to follow that religion "by their own volition". Contrary to what appears to be popular belief around here, us theists aren't mindless drones. If Christianity all of the sudden states that rape is good and that Jesus commands us to rape people in order to multiply, I would no longer be a Christian. But it doesn't. It states the opposite.

Good people can fall under a bad influence for any reason, bad religion only being one of them. And as i keep saying, it works the other way around too. A bad person can be influenced to do good because of good religion, or because of any other positive influene.

An annoying inconsistency I keep seeing here is the quickness to blame a person's religion for every bad act they commit. But when a religious person is influenced by their religion to do good , such as all the religious charities and church fundraisers for the needy, all of the sudden the argument becomes "Oh, well, their religion has nothing to do with them doing these good things." I've seen it multiple times. (Though I suppose I've also seen "They're only doing good things so they can win points for Heaven, that's it." Either way it's pretry unfair and extremely inconsistent)

People are brought up into so many things including religion. That's a fact.
That's why changing religion is called "conversion"; it's a conversion in the belief; if that belief is inherited then the person was brought up to carry it.

Then when you mature mentally, you become free to choose. If you choose not to rethink your faith and question the logic behind your belief; then you were shot by the stereotypical way of life; point blank.

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No most people are brought into religion much before they can "choose". Let me ask you this, why do you choose to be a "catholic" instead of a "vaishnab"(a sect of vishnu worshippers in hinduism) or a sikh?

Yes, in this society rape is considered bad and our laws about it are not perfect, but how the old testament deals with rape is morally much worse. I mean do you think it is good to force someone to marry their rapist? Yes these days people can ignore these in the name of new testament because our society has evolved, but in the past people didn't just stop being christians due to these bad parts of christianity, rather they embraced it. Would you say every christian who believed the old testament was a bad person? Or was christianity a bad religion if not for the new testament?

I was raised Catholic, but it is my choice that I follow it. I'm not some mindless robot. Catholic teaching both on faith and on morals makes logical sense to me. If tomorrow the Church claimed God wants us to steal and rape (which it doesn't, despite whatever literal interpretation you're pulling from the OT), I'd realize that it wasn't what I thought it was, and I'd leave. From everyone I know, I can't imagine a single one of them being like "Oh, the Church says rape is good now? Ok then, imma go out and find me some person to rape." We are not idiots.

You're still not really addressing my initial point, which is that religion can be either a negative OR positive influence depending on what the ideologies are, and it is dishonest and inconsistent to only claim it does the former.

Children are mindless robots; CL.

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Being good does not need decoration.

It does, because the "bad" is always decorated. Isn't being "bad" a desired thing to some people? Nazies, rappers, Marylin Manson..
I'M NOT COMPARING NAZIS TO RAPPERS. EXCEPT JAY-Z. HE'S A FREEMASON

[downbeatplumb]

It may have occurred to some of you who have been unlucky enough to be informed of such atrocities that there are global patterns and commonalities which identify who and what is behind these crimes.
It doesn't matter where they occur, or under what persuasion, they have common methods of training and torture.
The agenda and organisation that perpetrates these horrific sins, can be more fully understood. It is quite comprehensive, and there is not a shortage of people who are exposing this organisation, however, there are just as many whose purpose is to confuse and undermine the truth, through half truths, exaggerations and lies.

Therefor I recommend that before you do any research that you get a clear picture of the world as it has been over the last 1900 years.
The dreaded and most hated book of this evil organisation is "The Great Controversy" By E.G.White. Free to read online, but be certain to read the earlier unchanged copy, pre 1911 publication. The corrupt leaders of the SDA church are of the same organisation, or controlled by the same, and have aimed to obliterate this book, especially the vital chapters.

If you prefer to watch a video, not on the book but the same topics, see the link below for a complete series.
https://amazingdiscoveries.tv/c/1/Total_Onslaught/

Its the Catholic church isn't it!

Evil buggers they are.

Just ask the cathars.

[Banned]

I recommend the book The Great Controversy....
and
https://amazingdiscoveries.tv/c/1/Total_Onslaught/

Its the Catholic church isn't it!

Evil buggers they are.

Just ask the cathars.

Be careful with this one, the RCC has two faces - the one is good the other is pure evil.
The good is open, the evil hidden, just like its master Satan.
Millions of Catholics don't know the dark side, and God is asking them to come out of the system, by exposing its dark side, and if they see her for what she is, they will escape the punishment which she will get in the near future.
Not only that, but the details of how it all happens is available for them to know.

In the meantime, the world is influenced by the dark side, and it has many branches of operation in business, government and secret societies.

The atrocities committed world wide, and the wars and civil strife the world experiences are orchestrated by Satan through these organisations under the one umbrella.
The music and entertainment industries, food production and the environment, the education systems, health institutions, and every facet of society is infected by creepy men doing the will of Satan.

If you want to know how Satan holds the world back from peace, you need to understand the nature of evil, its two faces - bringing benefits and good, while undermining society at the same time.

All these issues and more are presented with detailed evidence in these videos and in the book.
And be wary that there are hundreds of fake exposures going on as a counter measure against the truth.

[Cyberman]

How is it that islam made you forget how to communicate in english?  All your weird beliefs aside, that's something I've been wondering.

Knot on Moses is because he was their Leader, so he couldn't speak the truth, lest they turn on him.

I am no leader, I get to speak without fear.  I lead no one. I don't care if I am deemed a fool.

I won't lose anyone because I have no followers, and no one takes my words as authority that I have to worry about how they can be misinterpreted by the masses.

And God get angry at Moses when he talked about Mohammad who was the one who God will send, and said "You have Aaron", meaning, yes you have a knot on your tongue, but your despair at people understanding should not go past your successor Aaron, for,  I have appointed you and brought you of the river of life to humanity to guide them, and so guide them to your brother Aaron who after you will make people understand your words and I will help Aaron and his family, which is your family as well, with the exalted leadership and my covenant regarding them and his offspring is like that of Abraham and his chosen offspring, and I sent you so that you and your family can be a guidance to humanity, that your successors who follow you guide humanity, and prepare the way for Mohammad. 

And his Anger was, what will you despair of darkness and veils with little wisdom on humans, till the one I will send to them all (Mohammad) and lay the burden all on him. Rather you and the children of my championed fighter (Israel) are to prepare people for the one who I will send.

And it' sad Mohammad had a similar knot and people were NOT prepared, and that the family of Mohammad and Ali faced the same onslaught the family of Moses and Aaron faced.

Temarc! The river Temarc in winter! Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra. Darmok and Jalad... on the ocean. Sokath, his eyes open!

The beast at Tanagra. Uzani, his army. Shaka, when the walls fell.

Temba, his arms open. Temba, at rest.

[downbeatplumb]

Knot on Moses is because he was their Leader, so he couldn't speak the truth, lest they turn on him.

I am no leader, I get to speak without fear.  I lead no one. I don't care if I am deemed a fool.

I won't lose anyone because I have no followers, and no one takes my words as authority that I have to worry about how they can be misinterpreted by the masses.

And God get angry at Moses when he talked about Mohammad who was the one who God will send, and said "You have Aaron", meaning, yes you have a knot on your tongue, but your despair at people understanding should not go past your successor Aaron, for,  I have appointed you and brought you of the river of life to humanity to guide them, and so guide them to your brother Aaron who after you will make people understand your words and I will help Aaron and his family, which is your family as well, with the exalted leadership and my covenant regarding them and his offspring is like that of Abraham and his chosen offspring, and I sent you so that you and your family can be a guidance to humanity, that your successors who follow you guide humanity, and prepare the way for Mohammad. 

And his Anger was, what will you despair of darkness and veils with little wisdom on humans, till the one I will send to them all (Mohammad) and lay the burden all on him. Rather you and the children of my championed fighter (Israel) are to prepare people for the one who I will send.

And it' sad Mohammad had a similar knot and people were NOT prepared, and that the family of Mohammad and Ali faced the same onslaught the family of Moses and Aaron faced.

Temarc! The river Temarc in winter! Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra. Darmok and Jalad... on the ocean. Sokath, his eyes open!

The beast at Tanagra. Uzani, his army. Shaka, when the walls fell.

Temba, his arms open. Temba, at rest.

And in "banned" we have an equal to knight, word salad exponent.

Like the star trek reference by the way.