You guys are right.

[Brian37]

They are valid and sound to me, it's just the premises are doubted for reasons which I find irrational, but perhaps should give them proper due, and elaborate more.

If I was trying to sell you a car, what would be more likely to persuade you to want to buy it - the actual car or how skilfully I can sell it?

The problem with all theism and religion is that is just that, marketing, selling, not proving anything pragmatic, like an actual real physical car, or an efficient model up to date. It is more like selling an old rust bucket with no engine just because you slapped some bondo and bright paint on it.

[Cinjin]

I would consider listening to one of your insane arguments if you would allow me to photoshop two eyebrows onto your avatar.

Just sayin

[LadyForCamus]

I think for better conversations in the future, Khemikal, I am going to have to put on ignore and swear on my soul never to peak.

You ruin every thread with none-sense way of arguing and I actually respond.

Mate, did you lick a rainbow-coloured frog lately? You begin every single thread by power-fucking logic to death then twisting it into a macabre balloon animal before proudly presenting it before us like we're about to have our minds blown by your earth-shattering revelations blasted into your brain by Allah himself, and you have the absolute front to talk about nonsense?

Not a single thing you have said recently has made the most infinitesimal blip of sense, yet you continue to pull these posts out your arse at such a regular metronomic rate you could set a fucking atomic clock by it.

You used to be better - or at the very least you were more coherent, but something happened to you. I don't know why you're like this now but the frequency at which you vomit out these word casseroles is frankly concerning. Sharpen up man, because you're rapidly becoming a fucking joke and it's sad to see.

This is going into the hall of epicness.  😂

[GrandizerII]

I haven't proven my case past your doubts which perhaps are legitimate to you and I need to communicate better.

No, no, no. I told you in one of your other threads not to try doing better. Go take a break for now, and come back when youre ready to accept that we have good intellectual reasons to not believe in your God and that nothing you say can ever change our minds on this. Because its not just words were after. We want clear evidence as well, something which neither you nor anyone else seem capable of providing.

[drfuzzy]

I haven't proven my case past your doubts which perhaps are legitimate to you and I need to communicate better.

No, no, no. I told you in one of your other threads not to try doing better. Go take a break for now, and come back when youre ready to accept that we have good intellectual reasons to not believe in your God and that nothing you say can ever change our minds on this. Because its not just words were after. We want clear evidence as well, something which neither you nor anyone else seem capable of providing.

^^^  THIS  ^^^

(sigh) Mystic, Mystic.  You are so close.  Just remove the last 6 words and you'll have it.  

YOU don't need to communicate. Words won't work. "Holy" books won't work.  Philosophical arguments won't work. They just won't. There is absolutely nothing that YOU (or any other human) can put on a forum that would make me accept that a deity exists. Any deity.

Why don't you just relax?  Share some jokes.  Tell us something amusing about your day.  Join a Mafia game.   ??

[Wyrd of Gawd]

I haven't proven my case past your doubts which perhaps are legitimate to you and I need to communicate better.

Why should I care if your favorite deity is real?  His existence would mean nothing to me.

[pocaracas]

I haven't proven my case past your doubts which perhaps are legitimate to you and I need to communicate better.

If you think you can proof a good into existence, then, by all means, be my guest... Keep trying.
But just know that it's a tall order and you need to get past some unknown unknowns.
Logic alone can't cut it. Philosophy alone can't cut it.

Ultimately, there is the great hurdle of history. If uneducated, ignorant man of tens of millennia in the past, somehow, found information about god, then one would expect that the same could be found by a child, today. A child that had never been exposed to the concept of god. Any child, any where. Instead, we have these grown men, men who were taught to believe as children and then feel the need to rationalize that belief. Men who end up blind to the shortcomings of their own logic... Like you?... Like Aquinas?... Like WLC?...

[Mister Agenda]

I haven't proven my case past your doubts which perhaps are legitimate to you and I need to communicate better.

If you're admitting that our disagreement with you concerning the existence of your deity is sincere, that makes a big difference with me.

[Shell B]

I haven't proven my case past your doubts which perhaps are legitimate to you and I need to communicate better.

I know this statement won't change your mind, either, but have your considered that your case can't be proven? It might not be our doubts or your communication that are at fault but rather the case you're making.

[Whateverist]

I haven't proven my case past your doubts which perhaps are legitimate to you and I need to communicate better.

I know this statement won't change your mind, either, but have your considered that your case can't be proven? It might not be our doubts or your communication that are at fault but rather the case you're making.

So he is trying to do what has never been done and quite likely can never be done.

He reads the 'proofs' of others and feels his beliefs reinforced.  But if I read them I'm quite sure I would have my disbelief reinforced.  The missing ingredient seems to be the pre-existing belief MK starts with.