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Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians?
#81
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians?
Too bad religious scholars cannot come to the reasonable consensus that the entire Bible is a work of fiction.
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#82
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians?
(February 13, 2018 at 2:10 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: Too bad religious scholars cannot come to the reasonable consensus that the entire Bible is a work of fiction.

Careful.... I'm told that atheists don't make claims of such things.
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#83
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians?
(February 13, 2018 at 2:12 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Careful.... I'm told that atheists don't make claims of such things.

I'm not most atheists. Wink
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#84
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians?
No doubt exists whatsoever that some New Testament letters, such as 2 Peter, were forgeries.
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#85
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians?
(February 13, 2018 at 2:21 pm)Jehanne Wrote: No doubt exists whatsoever that some New Testament letters, such as 2 Peter, were forgeries.

Why?   What is your backing for such certainty?
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#86
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians?
The overwhelming consensus of modern scholarship:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Epistle_of_Peter
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#87
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians?
(February 7, 2018 at 10:15 am)Drich Wrote: To kill a non citizen was to kill a potential problem. Paul was held up and thanked for what He did with Christians.

Bullshit, somebody going around killing christians in c45-60 CE and being lauded for it would be like me killing somebody for being a worshipper of Sithrak and expecting to get a medal for it.

Christians weren't even on the radar at that stage in the Principate (frankly, they weren't on the radar until near the time of the Battle of the Milvain Bridge) because of one single fact, they were a tiny and insignificant sub-sect of the jewish religion, which itself was only a very minor player in the Roman world. Christianity didn't gain any prominence at all in Rome until it was officially adopted, and wasn't even the majority religion in Western Rome when the empire broke up.
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#88
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians?
(February 13, 2018 at 2:56 pm)Jehanne Wrote: The overwhelming consensus of modern scholarship:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Epistle_of_Peter

I'm underwhelmed.... I don't have a problem if Peter was not the author, and 2 Peter was not as quickly accepted as the other texts by the early church (although it isn't said as to why).  However, as I previously discussed, I am generally not very impressed with the examples of linguistic differences and the sharp conclusions that are drawn from them at times (especially if you take into consideration an amanuenses) The best thing mentioned here is the allusion to Gnosticism but even that some already consider a gnostic presence into the end of the 1st century.
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#89
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians?
-and yet magic book, as a whole, impresses you?  That's some awfully selective admiration.
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RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians?
(February 13, 2018 at 2:56 pm)Jehanne Wrote: The overwhelming consensus of modern scholarship:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Epistle_of_Peter

Of course, "Peter" is historical fiction too.... along with the rest of jesus' merry men.

The record is as absent of facts as the record of jebus himself.
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