Objective/subjective morals

[Mr.Obvious]

I don't understand what would make Morals less worthy if they were subjective rather than objective. In fact, if all you can fall back on for explaining why something is wrong ; is that it is wrong because it is wrong, The value of your point immeadiately strikes me as less worthwhile than if you could Explain why you feel said action or whatever is wrong.

But Hey, that's just my subjective opinion.

[The Grand Nudger]

In most peoples lives there wouldn't be much of a difference.  The only "worth" objective moral statements have is in what we might call a high stakes dispute between two competing moral statements.  Say that the supposed moral status of homosexuality forms the justification for chemical castration of people getting caught while gay.  

Saying "No, homosexuality is not objectively wrong, but the action which you are about to undertake on the basis of considering it even subjectively wrong -is- objectively wrong" shows the value of objective moral statements.

[DLJ]

I think this could be a shit and run.

He/she came over to our place (TTA) with this dinger: "How satan popped the muslim and atheist"

It was a long OP which, when boiled down, said "Woot, woot, I'm a chew toy" and has received the derision it deserved.

There was some follow-up so at least this wasn't just a one-post-wonder.

[Simon Moon]

I wish they'd do an experiment on this. Two tribes brought up in isolation one with religious influences the other without. My money is on the non religious tribe eating each other once they run out of resources because why not? lol. Despite what we all like to believe humans by nature gravitate towards evil, we are just easier to domesticate because we are good learners.

Sorry to be blunt, but you're a moron.

Have you ever heard of The Donner Party?

They were a Christian group of 85 people (about the same size as most tribes) who, while traveling west, were trapped in an early snow fall in the Sierra Nevada mountains. They ran out of resources, just like your hypothetical tribes, and take a guess what happened. The turned to cannibalism to survive.

So, there is a real world example of your hypothetical experiment, and religious people ate each other.

How much money are you going to send me? I'll PM you my PayPal info.

No wonder you became a theist. You have no intellectual curiosity to find out facts.

Just to clarify, this happened in 1847, and about half of the Donner Party resorted to cannibalism.

Must have been the atheist half, right?

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

Curious as to how almost every modern society in every nook and corner of the world has religious influences... The OG atheist tribes probs ate each other lol
No offense but atheism comes off super rebellious (and by effect kind of infantile as well) to me(note:atheism, not atheists).guess we all gotta do our individual thing 🏇

[Ravenshire]

This shit again?!?

Fuck!

OP, the search button is your friend.

[Amarok]

Curious as to how almost every modern society in every nook and corner of the world has religious influences... The OG atheist tribes probs ate each other lol 

In the history of humankind stupid foolish and irrational idea's have an tendency to be prominent . Slavery for example. Oh and primativite atheism exists. 

https://www.thoughtco.com/atheism-and-ag...-s2-248347

[Ravenshire]

It's an evergreen conversation, lol. I made a master thread, but nobody used it....

(emphasis is mine)

In large part because the shit-and-runners are to focused on delivering their "gotcha" argument to bother with searching.

Or, indeed, even bothering to stick around for the rebuttals apparently.

[Jackalope]

I think this could be a shit and run.

One post, less than 5 minutes online, definitely.

[Minimalist]

Yeah.  A one-shit wonder.  Sort of like "jesus."