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RE: The truth of Atheism
February 13, 2018 at 10:22 am
(February 13, 2018 at 10:17 am)emjay Wrote: (February 13, 2018 at 9:36 am)Wololo Wrote: I'm more of a B'Stard man myself.
Probably more closely related to Brian Boru than Boru (I'm the right clan at least).
Sorry, you've lost me  ...is B'Stard an Irish thing? I'm half Irish but I've never lived there and don't know much of my family history on that side. I've only been to visit a few times... the land of gloomier weather than England... if such a thing is possible... and an almost total lack of road signs 
UK comedy TV show. Alan B'stard was a tory politician with no morals.
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RE: The truth of Atheism
February 13, 2018 at 10:29 am
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RE: The truth of Atheism
February 13, 2018 at 2:56 pm
(February 12, 2018 at 11:27 am)Lutrinae Wrote: (February 12, 2018 at 11:25 am)Drich Wrote: You guys are reading too far into the clip.
I witnessed this type of behavior more than once with 'atheists' and wondered how many of you could admit this type of behavior in your own life.
When in need cry out to God and when 'safe' tell god to eff off..
Bolded: The only time I ever cried out to god was when I was a theist who had faith in his existence. But did you? did you cry out to God or did you cry out to your own idea of god/your own version of god? If you did not cry out to God, then why would you expect Him to answer?
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RE: The truth of Atheism
February 13, 2018 at 3:03 pm
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The only time I cried out to god is when I saw Drich and wanted to know how a god who is so great can still be so means and small as to make Drich into such a sorry halfwit.
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RE: The truth of Atheism
February 13, 2018 at 3:05 pm
Remember. Drich is the arbiter of both true Christians and true atheists. He knows all. Absolutely and unwaveringly...and incomprehensibly.
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RE: The truth of Atheism
February 13, 2018 at 3:12 pm
(February 13, 2018 at 2:56 pm)Drich Wrote: But did you? did you cry out to God or did you cry out to your own idea of god/your own version of god? If you did not cry out to God, then why would you expect Him to answer?
I believe I would know first and foremost what I did, before anyone else, since my thoughts and my actions are my own. As to the concept of god, the only logical version is the one each individual personally thinks into imaginative existence; thus schisms. Everyone can universally agree that a rock is a rock, because a rock can empirically be shown to exist; the same cannot be stated for god--thus schisms. There would currently be no reason for me to cry out to a god that does not exist, and I logically expect no answer from that which does not exist. If I was to call out to that which does not exist, especially if I was to expect an answer from that which does not exist, I would understand myself as having lost touch with reality.
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RE: The truth of Atheism
February 13, 2018 at 3:45 pm
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(February 12, 2018 at 12:11 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Drich Wrote:You guys are reading too far into the clip.
I witnessed this type of behavior more than once with 'atheists' and wondered how many of you could admit this type of behavior in your own life.
When in need cry out to God and when 'safe' tell god to eff off..
Why do online Christians like Drich always seem to know atheists convenient for their claims when I didn't knowingly meet my third atheist until I was over 40?
because when ever "WE" are doing our thing one of you makes it known that they are offended by it.
I use to lead a group of singles around a lake down town and we would sing church hymns and at Christmas sing Christmas songs. first week out a handful of "happy people" followed us around booing us. Then after the second week they got the cops involved which told us we could not assemble in a public park to hold 'worship service' without a permit.
Singing Christmas songs... like Rudolph and jingle bells...
Or when someone brings their atheist friend to church or lord forbid I use one of you as an example!!!
(February 12, 2018 at 1:38 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Imagining a situation where I'm about to be murdered. The guy is stomping through my house looking for me.
"Oh Tooth Fairy, please help me find a way out please please please and I'll devote my life to you forever!"
Hell no. I would be way too busy either searching for an exit strategy or a weapon.
that was't the parameters set fourth in the cartoon
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RE: The truth of Atheism
February 13, 2018 at 3:46 pm
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(February 13, 2018 at 3:05 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Remember. Drich is the arbiter of both true Christians and true atheists. He knows all. Absolutely and unwaveringly...and incomprehensibly.
Bit like his "god"..in that regard. What an enormous coincidence.
(February 13, 2018 at 3:45 pm)Drich Wrote: that was't the parameters set fourth in the cartoon
This describes all of your "biblical" responses to a t. Unintentional comedy is best comedy. 10/10 
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RE: The truth of Atheism
February 13, 2018 at 3:48 pm
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(February 13, 2018 at 8:30 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (February 12, 2018 at 11:25 am)Drich Wrote: You guys are reading too far into the clip.
I witnessed this type of behavior more than once with 'atheists' and wondered how many of you could admit this type of behavior in your own life.
When in need cry out to God and when 'safe' tell god to eff off..
if not you then perhaps an alternate you in the multi-verse. after all I think one out of the 50 ricks remained atheist in his convictions while the other groveled.
If one could admit this, you are 1/2 way home, all we need do then is identify the preceived freedom you think you have with 'God.' Then I ca show you that freedom is nothing more than a philosophical illusion. Baloney. I can safely say that the only time I cry out "OHHHHHH GOD!!!!" is in a context you likely disapprove of.
(February 13, 2018 at 3:05 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Remember. Drich is the arbiter of both true Christians and true atheists. He knows all. Absolutely and unwaveringly...and incomprehensibly. Indeed as there are neither an example of a "True Christian" nor a 'true atheist' on this website. Both are 'practicing.' For the Christian, one is allowed to 'miss the mark.' while the atheist follows much tighter rules and must maintain a closed mind about all that he thinks he already knows.
(February 13, 2018 at 3:12 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: (February 13, 2018 at 2:56 pm)Drich Wrote: But did you? did you cry out to God or did you cry out to your own idea of god/your own version of god? If you did not cry out to God, then why would you expect Him to answer?
I believe I would know first and foremost what I did, before anyone else, since my thoughts and my actions are my own. As to the concept of god, the only logical version is the one each individual personally thinks into imaginative existence; thus schisms. That's not true. or rather that is true for the proud, but not true for the humble. Only the proud presupposes a God and then looks to make his world view fit (hence schisms) the Humble seek God in whatever he can comprehend and changes when confronted by a contradiction. Once all contradiction is gone, what is left is a accurate picture of God.
Quote: Everyone can universally agree that a rock is a rock, because a rock can empirically be shown to exist; the same cannot be stated for god--thus schisms.
This is a bad analogy as you are comparing a common place item with something harder to find. Let say my 'rock' is a diamond
While you may see only a rock I have been made aware of it value and facets. While you have been taught to trivialize what makes my diamond more valuable than your common place rock. Schism occur when we create narratives as to why or the nature of the value of the diamond, that are different from
Quote: There would currently be no reason for me to cry out to a god that does not exist, and I logically expect no answer from that which does not exist.
Me either. How ever I do cry out to God, as I have stood before Him.
Quote: If I was to call out to that which does not exist, especially if I was to expect an answer from that which does not exist, I would understand myself as having lost touch with reality.
what if your 'reality' is a fraction of what is out there?
What if you were a mole cricket would your "reality" dictate Reality? How much more is there of the cosmos than what your 'reality would contain as a mole cricket or even now?
We are so certain that science only knows a fraction of the secrets of the universe, but is also 100% certain that God can not be apart of that equasion??? why?
Hence the cartoon and what I find so funny. Science has a lock on what is 'real' till it doesn't, then all bets are off till it finds footing again.
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RE: The truth of Atheism
February 13, 2018 at 4:21 pm
(February 13, 2018 at 3:48 pm)Drich Wrote: Indeed as there are neither an example of a "True Christian" nor a 'true atheist' on this website. Both are 'practicing.' For the Christian, one is allowed to 'miss the mark.' while the atheist follows much tighter rules and must maintain a closed mind about all that he thinks he already knows.
All I have to do to be an atheist is not believe in a god. I can be open-minded, closed-minded or any variation thereof and still be an atheist simply by virtue of not believing in a god.
This isn't rocket science. I accept that you have a god-belief. Why are you trying to attach irrelevant conditions to my non-belief?
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