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Billy Graham Dead At 99
#61
RE: Billy Graham Dead At 99
(February 22, 2018 at 12:32 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(February 21, 2018 at 11:46 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: To paraphrase Hitchens, If they gave Graham an enema they could bury him in a matchbox.

Actually that was not Hitchens talking about Graham, but Jerry Falwell.

Hence paraphrase.

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#62
RE: Billy Graham Dead At 99
I would love to die at 69. My headstone would say please bring mouthwash
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#63
RE: Billy Graham Dead At 99
(February 21, 2018 at 6:17 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:I prefer the Vulcan greeting, Live long and prosper.
You mean evil pointy eared communists .  Tongue

Quote:Meh. Context of the time matters for that, same for regret.  I really only know what I read on Wikipedia today, and I would guess so do you. People didn't have the same view of nukes then and it said that he wanted to drop them on a dam, not on 'the Vietnamese'  Whatever though. I'm a hardcore Atheist who is against owning material possessions and Billy Graham was a millionaire christian, but I'm not going to celebrate the death of anyone.

Also you are literally Adolph Hitler.
Yay lets excuse ever awful person because they weren't pure evil . I guess everyone off the hook now. And no i'm totally for bashing an asshole even if their dead . Being dead isn't redemption.

Could be, but like I said, I don't really know that much about him.

(February 21, 2018 at 6:04 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(February 21, 2018 at 5:37 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Meh. Context of the time matters for that, same for regret.  I really only know what I read on Wikipedia today, and I would guess so do you. People didn't have the same view of nukes then and it said that he wanted to drop them on a dam, not on 'the Vietnamese'  Whatever though. I'm a hardcore Atheist who is against owning material possessions and Billy Graham was a millionaire christian, but I'm not going to celebrate the death of anyone.

Also you are literally Adolph Hitler.

Yes, the context of the love of Jesus given by the desire to nuke a backwards people in their own country. I suppose that's Not surprising from he who worships the agent of the flood, who is said to be consubstantial with Jesus.

Regarding the remark about Hitler, I don't think your literacy is of a caliber that enables understanding of any of the words in that sentence except for "you".

Do you know what the word literacy means?
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#64
RE: Billy Graham Dead At 99
(February 22, 2018 at 2:43 am)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(February 22, 2018 at 12:32 am)Brian37 Wrote: Actually that was not Hitchens talking about Graham, but Jerry Falwell.

Hence paraphrase.

Perhaps "invoke" may have been more apt, since you quoted the Hitch pretty directly, but only changed the object?
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#65
RE: Billy Graham Dead At 99
(February 22, 2018 at 1:00 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(February 21, 2018 at 9:33 pm)A Theist Wrote: On that note, did George Soros ever apologize for being a nazi collaborator?

He never was one. He was 14 when the war ended, and it appears the sole extent of the "collaboration" involved posing as a collaborating Hungarian official's godson (said official had a Jewish wife in hiding), and one time, spending three days with said "godfather" at a mansion he was inventorying, more or less because he felt he shouldn't leave his "godson" alone for three days. His actions during the visit are best described as "tagging along."
He didn't just tag along. He admitted in the 60 minutes interview that he helped to confiscate the property of other Jews and then tried to downplay his role by saying he was just tagging along.

Kroft: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his godson.
Soros: Yes, yes.
Kroft: ...went out in fact and helped in the confiscation of property of the Jews.
Soros: That's right.

He was a nazi collaborator who felt no guilt in his role. He also said in an interview that while his mother was a Jew herself, she was an antisemite. Being raised in that environment, to be antisemite, probably better explains why he felt no guilt in being a nazi collaborator.
Soros is an evil individual and the world would be better off without monsters like him living in it
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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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#66
RE: Billy Graham Dead At 99
(February 22, 2018 at 8:08 am)A Theist Wrote:
(February 22, 2018 at 1:00 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: He never was one. He was 14 when the war ended, and it appears the sole extent of the "collaboration" involved posing as a collaborating Hungarian official's godson (said official had a Jewish wife in hiding), and one time, spending three days with said "godfather" at a mansion he was inventorying, more or less because he felt he shouldn't leave his "godson" alone for three days. His actions during the visit are best described as "tagging along."
He didn't just tag along. He admitted in the 60 minutes interview that he helped to confiscate the property of other Jews and then tried to downplay his role by saying he was just tagging along.

Kroft: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his godson.
Soros: Yes, yes.
Kroft: ...went out in fact and helped in the confiscation of property of the Jews.
Soros: That's right.

He was a nazi collaborator who felt no guilt in his role. He also said in an interview that while his mother was a Jew herself, she was an antisemite. Being raised in that environment, to be antisemite, probably better explains why he felt no guilt in being a nazi collaborator.
Soros is an evil individual and the world would be better off without monsters like him living in it
White Nationalist propaganda:

https://www.salon.com/2018/02/22/parklan...rge-soros/
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#67
RE: Billy Graham Dead At 99
George Soros was no nazi 

Get over yourself Ahole
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#68
RE: Billy Graham Dead At 99
(February 22, 2018 at 8:41 am)chimp3 Wrote:
(February 22, 2018 at 8:08 am)A Theist Wrote: He didn't just tag along. He admitted in the 60 minutes interview that he helped to confiscate the property of other Jews and then tried to downplay his role by saying he was just tagging along.

Kroft: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his godson.
Soros: Yes, yes.
Kroft: ...went out in fact and helped in the confiscation of property of the Jews.
Soros: That's right.

He was a nazi collaborator who felt no guilt in his role. He also said in an interview that while his mother was a Jew herself, she was an antisemite. Being raised in that environment, to be antisemite, probably better explains why he felt no guilt in being a nazi collaborator.
Soros is an evil individual and the world would be better off without monsters like him living in it
White Nationalist propaganda:

https://www.salon.com/2018/02/22/parklan...rge-soros/

It was a CBS 60 Minutes interview and I don't think CBS is associated with white nationalists.
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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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#69
RE: Billy Graham Dead At 99
Right wing bullshit refuted 

Quote:
Quote:Soros’s biographer, Michael T. Kaufman, describes Soros as “visibly dumbfounded” by Kroft’s “prosecutorial” line of questioning. In his book, Soros: The Life and Times of a Messianic Billionaire (Knopf, 2002), Kaufman addresses the claim that Soros was involved in confiscating Jewish property. While it’s true that one of the jobs delegated to young George’s temporary protector, a Hungarian bureaucrat named Baumbach, was taking inventory of Jewish properties already confiscated by the Nazis, Kaufman writes, the extent of Soros’s participation was accompanying Baumbach on one of these assignments:
Shortly after George went to live with Baumbach, the man was assigned to take inventory on the vast estate of Mor Kornfeld, an extremely wealthy aristocrat of Jewish origin. The Kornfeld family had the wealth, wisdom, and connections to be able to leave some of its belongings behind in exchange for permission to make their way to Lisbon. Baumbach was ordered to go to the Kornfeld estate and inventory the artworks, furnishings, and other property. Rather than leave his “godson” behind in Budapest for three days, he took the boy with him. As Baumbach itemized the material, George walked around the grounds and spent time with Kornfeld’s staff. It was his first visit to such a mansion, and the first time he rode a horse. He collaborated with no one and he paid attention to what he understood to be his primary responsibility: making sure that no one doubted that he was Sandor Kiss [Soros’s assumed identity]. Among his practical concerns was to make sure that no one saw him pee.


Quote:George’s father, Tivadar Soros, provided a similar account of the incident in his 1965 autobiography, Masquerade: Dancing Around Death in Nazi Occupied Hungary (note: Tivadar gives the name of the ministry official as “Baufluss,” but Soros confirmed to us that the correct name is Baumbach):
Quote:Baufluss was charged by the ministry with inventorying confiscated Jewish estates. He was home only at weekends; the rest of his time he spent taking inventory in the provinces. During the week George passed his time alone in Baufluss’ s apartment. Lacking anything else to do, he caught the attention of some of his schoolmates, who lived in the building across the way. Communicating by hand signals, they seemed surprised to see him holed up in somebody else’s house. The following week the kind-hearted Baufluss, in an effort to cheer the unhappy lad up, took him off with him to the provinces. At the time he was working in Transdanubia, west of Budapest, on the model estate of a Jewish aristocrat, Baron Moric Kornfeld. There they were wined and dined by what was left of the staff. George also met several other ministry officials, who immediately took a liking to the young man, the alleged godson of Mr Baufluss. He even helped with the inventory. Surrounded by good company, he quickly regained his spirits. On Saturday he returned to Budapest.
“He even helped with the inventory,” Tivadar Soros wrote — a detail one doesn’t find in Kaufman’s book. Some may rush to cite this as proof that Soros was a “collaborator” after all, but given that it occurred on only one occasion, and that Soros was under an imperative to convincingly play the part of Baumbach’s godson while in the company of


Quote:Moreover, these biographical passages demonstrate that Steve Kroft’s claim on 60 Minutes that Soros “accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews” is flat-out false. Tivadar Soros wrote that most of young George’s time under Baumbach’s care was spent alone in the latter’s apartment. Both Tivadar and Kaufman report that George only resided with Baumbach for a short time — a matter of weeks — before Tivadar, concerned that his son’s real identity was in danger of exposure, shipped him off to spend the summer of 1944 with his mother (who herself was living under an assumed name at a lakeside resort some distance from Budapest). George Soros spent no further time with Baumbach.
https://www.snopes.com/george-soros-ss-nazi-germany/
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#70
RE: Billy Graham Dead At 99
(February 22, 2018 at 9:08 am)Tizheruk Wrote: George Soros was no nazi 

Get over yourself Ahole
I never said he was a nazi party member. I said he was a nazi collaborator.

Get over your own self Tizhertard.

(February 22, 2018 at 9:16 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Right wing bullshit refuted 

Quote:Shortly after George went to live with Baumbach, the man was assigned to take inventory on the vast estate of Mor Kornfeld, an extremely wealthy aristocrat of Jewish origin. The Kornfeld family had the wealth, wisdom, and connections to be able to leave some of its belongings behind in exchange for permission to make their way to Lisbon. Baumbach was ordered to go to the Kornfeld estate and inventory the artworks, furnishings, and other property. Rather than leave his “godson” behind in Budapest for three days, he took the boy with him. As Baumbach itemized the material, George walked around the grounds and spent time with Kornfeld’s staff. It was his first visit to such a mansion, and the first time he rode a horse. He collaborated with no one and he paid attention to what he understood to be his primary responsibility: making sure that no one doubted that he was Sandor Kiss [Soros’s assumed identity]. Among his practical concerns was to make sure that no one saw him pee.


Quote:George’s father, Tivadar Soros, provided a similar account of the incident in his 1965 autobiography, Masquerade: Dancing Around Death in Nazi Occupied Hungary (note: Tivadar gives the name of the ministry official as “Baufluss,” but Soros confirmed to us that the correct name is Baumbach):
“He even helped with the inventory,” Tivadar Soros wrote — a detail one doesn’t find in Kaufman’s book. Some may rush to cite this as proof that Soros was a “collaborator” after all, but given that it occurred on only one occasion, and that Soros was under an imperative to convincingly play the part of Baumbach’s godson while in the company of


Quote:Moreover, these biographical passages demonstrate that Steve Kroft’s claim on 60 Minutes that Soros “accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews” is flat-out false. Tivadar Soros wrote that most of young George’s time under Baumbach’s care was spent alone in the latter’s apartment. Both Tivadar and Kaufman report that George only resided with Baumbach for a short time — a matter of weeks — before Tivadar, concerned that his son’s real identity was in danger of exposure, shipped him off to spend the summer of 1944 with his mother (who herself was living under an assumed name at a lakeside resort some distance from Budapest). George Soros spent no further time with Baumbach.
https://www.snopes.com/george-soros-ss-nazi-germany/
Left wing propaganda to clean up Soros's true image as a nazi collaborator.
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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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