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February 22, 2018 at 9:36 am (This post was last modified: February 22, 2018 at 10:03 am by Amarok.)
Quote:The 60 Minutes is problematic in many regards, not least in that Soros’s testimony comes across as confused and contradictory. After assenting to Kroft’s (inaccurate) statement that he “helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews,” for example, a minute later Soros says he was only a spectator and played no role in that confiscation:
Quote:Kroft: “My understanding is that you went … went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.” Soros: “Yes, that’s right. Yes.” Kroft: “I mean, that’s — that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?” Soros: “Not, not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t … you don’t see the connection. But it was — it created no — no problem at all.” Kroft: “No feeling of guilt?” Soros: “No.” Kroft: “For example, that, ‘I’m Jewish, and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be these, I should be there.’ None of that?” Soros: “Well, of course, … I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was — well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in the markets — that if I weren’t there — of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would — would — would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the — whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the — I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.“
Or took a passage from the 2011 book masquerade and twisted it's context to say he was happy about the Nazi occupation when he was really talking about .
Quote:I was fourteen years old. We were in great peril, but my father was seemingly in command of the situation. I was aware of the dangers because my father spent a lot of time explaining them to me but I did not believe in my heart of hearts that I could get hurt. We were pursued by evil forces and we were clearly on the side of the angels because we were unjustly persecuted; moreover, we were trying not only to save ourselves but also to save others. The odds were against us but we seemed to have the upper hand. What more could a fourteen-year-old want? I adored and admired my father. We led an adventurous life and we had fun together.
Quote:1944 became the formative experience of my life. I was fourteen and I had boundless admiration for my father. I absorbed and adopted his view of the world wholesale. As I have often said, the year of German occupation was a strangely positive experience for me. We were confronted by mortal danger and people perished all around us, but we managed not only to survive but to emerge victorious because we were able to help so many others. We were on the side of the angels and we triumphed against overwhelming odds. What more can a fourteen-year-old ask for?
Even other Holocaust survivors are pissed at this attempt vilify Soros
Quote:Glenn Beck’s description of George Soros’ actions during the Holocaust is completely inappropriate, offensive and over the top. For a political commentator or entertainer to have the audacity to say – inaccurately – that there’s a Jewish boy sending Jews to death camps, as part of a broader assault on Mr. Soros, that’s horrific. While I, too, may disagree with many of Soros’ views and analysis on the issues, to bring in this kind of innuendo about his past is unacceptable. To hold a young boy responsible for what was going on around him during the Holocaust as part of a larger effort to denigrate the man is repugnant. The Holocaust was a horrific time, and many people had to make excruciating choices to ensure their survival. George Soros has been forthright about his childhood experiences and his family’s history, and there the matter should rest.
Holocaust survivor and Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman
I also find it hilariously awful that the right in accusing Soros of being a Nazi and trying to paint him as some omnipresent boogeyman are themselves acting like Nazi's . By going after the rich jewish person . Sound familiar.
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February 22, 2018 at 10:46 am (This post was last modified: February 22, 2018 at 10:50 am by A Theist.)
(February 22, 2018 at 9:36 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:The 60 Minutes is problematic in many regards, not least in that Soros’s testimony comes across as confused and contradictory. After assenting to Kroft’s (inaccurate) statement that he “helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews,” for example, a minute later Soros says he was only a spectator and played no role in that confiscation:
Quote:Kroft: “My understanding is that you went … went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.” Soros: “Yes, that’s right. Yes.” Kroft: “I mean, that’s — that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?” Soros: “Not, not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t … you don’t see the connection. But it was — it created no — no problem at all.” Kroft: “No feeling of guilt?” Soros: “No.” Kroft: “For example, that, ‘I’m Jewish, and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be these, I should be there.’ None of that?” Soros: “Well, of course, … I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was — well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in the markets — that if I weren’t there — of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would — would — would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the — whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the — I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.“
Or took a passage from the 2011 book masquerade and twisted it's context to say he was happy about the Nazi occupation when he was really talking about .
Quote:I was fourteen years old. We were in great peril, but my father was seemingly in command of the situation. I was aware of the dangers because my father spent a lot of time explaining them to me but I did not believe in my heart of hearts that I could get hurt. We were pursued by evil forces and we were clearly on the side of the angels because we were unjustly persecuted; moreover, we were trying not only to save ourselves but also to save others. The odds were against us but we seemed to have the upper hand. What more could a fourteen-year-old want? I adored and admired my father. We led an adventurous life and we had fun together.
Quote:1944 became the formative experience of my life. I was fourteen and I had boundless admiration for my father. I absorbed and adopted his view of the world wholesale. As I have often said, the year of German occupation was a strangely positive experience for me. We were confronted by mortal danger and people perished all around us, but we managed not only to survive but to emerge victorious because we were able to help so many others. We were on the side of the angels and we triumphed against overwhelming odds. What more can a fourteen-year-old ask for?
Even other Holocaust survivors are pissed at this attempt vilify Soros
Quote:Glenn Beck’s description of George Soros’ actions during the Holocaust is completely inappropriate, offensive and over the top. For a political commentator or entertainer to have the audacity to say – inaccurately – that there’s a Jewish boy sending Jews to death camps, as part of a broader assault on Mr. Soros, that’s horrific. While I, too, may disagree with many of Soros’ views and analysis on the issues, to bring in this kind of innuendo about his past is unacceptable. To hold a young boy responsible for what was going on around him during the Holocaust as part of a larger effort to denigrate the man is repugnant. The Holocaust was a horrific time, and many people had to make excruciating choices to ensure their survival. George Soros has been forthright about his childhood experiences and his family’s history, and there the matter should rest.
Holocaust survivor and Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman
I also find it hilariously awful that the right in accusing Soros of being a Nazi and trying to paint him as some omnipresent boogeyman are themselves acting like Nazi's . By going after the rich jewish person . Sound familiar.
George Soros realized he fucked up in the interview when he admitted his role as a collaborator and then tried to clean it up. His attitude in the interview and the way he tried to backtrack his earlier statements reminded me of his nazi buddies at Nuremberg when they tried to downplay their roles. He was only following orders
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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
Or took a passage from the 2011 book masquerade and twisted it's context to say he was happy about the Nazi occupation when he was really talking about .
Even other Holocaust survivors are pissed at this attempt vilify Soros
Holocaust survivor and Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman
I also find it hilariously awful that the right in accusing Soros of being a Nazi and trying to paint him as some omnipresent boogeyman are themselves acting like Nazi's . By going after the rich jewish person . Sound familiar.
George Soros realized he fucked up in the interview when he admitted his role as a collaborator and then tried to clean it up. His attitude in the interview and the way he tried to backtrack his earlier statements reminded me of his nazi buddies at Nuremberg when they tried to downplay their roles. He was only following orders
February 22, 2018 at 12:42 pm (This post was last modified: February 22, 2018 at 12:51 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(February 22, 2018 at 10:54 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(February 22, 2018 at 10:46 am)A Theist Wrote: George Soros realized he fucked up in the interview when he admitted his role as a collaborator and then tried to clean it up. His attitude in the interview and the way he tried to backtrack his earlier statements reminded me of his nazi buddies at Nuremberg when they tried to downplay their roles. He was only following orders
He was 14 when WWII ended.
It reminds me of the Mel Gibson Fantasy flick masquerading as historic epic Braveheart, in which the crown princess of England is accused of collaborating with William Wallace. The historic crown princess was 3 years old when William Wallace was executed.
February 22, 2018 at 12:46 pm (This post was last modified: February 22, 2018 at 12:52 pm by Amarok.)
Wait did i respond to CaptainAwesome
Sorry wrong person . My response was to Ahole .
(February 22, 2018 at 12:42 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(February 22, 2018 at 10:54 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: He was 14 when WWII ended.
It reminds me of the Mal Gibson Fantasy flick masquerading as historic epic Braveheart, in which the crown princess of England is accused of collaborating with William Wallace. The historic crown princess was 3 years old when William Wallace was executed.
But Anom you ruining aholes fanfiction . Next you'll be telling him Hillary is not the Antichrist and Barack Obama is not a secret muslim communist .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
(February 22, 2018 at 12:42 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(February 22, 2018 at 10:54 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: He was 14 when WWII ended.
It reminds me of the Mel Gibson Fantasy flick masquerading as historic epic Braveheart, in which the crown princess of England is accused of collaborating with William Wallace. The historic crown princess was 3 years old when William Wallace was executed.
If Shakespeare can keep an historical character anachronistically alive for narrative purposes, I'm sure tenth-rate fanfic writers can.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(February 22, 2018 at 12:42 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: It reminds me of the Mel Gibson Fantasy flick masquerading as historic epic Braveheart, in which the crown princess of England is accused of collaborating with William Wallace. The historic crown princess was 3 years old when William Wallace was executed.
If Shakespeare can keep an historical character anachronistically alive for narrative purposes, I'm sure tenth-rate fanfic writers can.
(February 21, 2018 at 8:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote: They always apologize after they get caught.... except the WLB who pays off his victims like the crooked turd he is.
On that note, did George Soros ever apologize for being a nazi collaborator?