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RE: Atheists: If God suddenly made his presence known... would you shit bricks?
November 18, 2010 at 12:10 am
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Atheists: If God suddenly made his presence known... would you shit bricks?
November 18, 2010 at 7:27 pm
(November 16, 2010 at 9:28 am)Loki_999 Wrote: Got accused in my thread about if god was real why should we worship him, that the question was loaded. :-(
So, here is a question loaded in the other direction relating to a real living god.
The theists can join in quite happily here and explain why we should be shitting bricks.
If God revealed Himself, I guess I'd just have to face facts.... wait, I already believe in God. Oh, so if God just showed up all of the sudden the real question is, what are we going to do to hang out? I want to start by flying, OH!, and I'm super jealous that Peter got to walk on water, I want to do that too. Also, I want to fight Mecha-Godzilla. Also, I want to know where the "world's best pie" really is and eat it. Then I want to go to that all-you-can-eat buffet at the Wynn, but never get full. Also, I'd want to show up at a big conference where there's a debate going between Richard Dawkins and a creationist, and be like, "thanks creationist guy, but I think we should let Jesus take it from here." Then see someone try and debate against Omniscient God. Not that I'm hating on my friend Dawkins, but I just really like seeing incredibly one-sided debates. I like to go away feeling like there was a real, clear winner. (And keep in mind that in this scenario Dawkins would be arguing against the existence of someone who's physically in the same room as him.) Hmm... what next, OH!, I've always wanted to be able to run at mach 3 and shoot explosions out of my fists. At the end of the day I'd want us to make up our own secret handshake, then we go catch laser Floyd at the planetarium. Best. Day. EVER.
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RE: Atheists: If God suddenly made his presence known... would you shit bricks?
November 18, 2010 at 11:20 pm
(November 18, 2010 at 7:27 pm)coffeeveritas Wrote: If God revealed Himself, I guess I'd just have to face facts.... wait, I already believe in God.
What if God introduced himself as "Allah" and came along with his primary prophet "Muhammad"? How would you react then?
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RE: Atheists: If God suddenly made his presence known... would you shit bricks?
November 19, 2010 at 3:43 am
(November 18, 2010 at 11:20 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: (November 18, 2010 at 7:27 pm)coffeeveritas Wrote: If God revealed Himself, I guess I'd just have to face facts.... wait, I already believe in God.
What if God introduced himself as "Allah" and came along with his primary prophet "Muhammad"? How would you react then?
Ha! Great question Paladin! I guess I'd have to start praying 5 times a day, which I kind of want to do anyway. Really the way the Muslim faith centers itself around practice instead of theory is something Christians can learn from, and the sense of meaning in following the pillars of Islam must be profound. Well "Allah" just means "God" anyway, so not much difference there, but as for Muhammad it would change my viewpoint some, obviously I would have to start reading the Koran as inspired, but I think there is a great deal of overlap there so I would still feel pretty comfortable. Plus, praying 5 times a day on a cool little prayer rug sounds like such a great ritual. OH!, and I would get to go to Mecca, you can only get into the city if you're Muslim. So overall, not too bad getting to know my good friends the Muslims even better, plus, cool little rug. Of course I highly doubt that would happen, but as I've said many times, the truth's the truth.
Recently Muslims, Jews, and Christians are getting along better*, and would be doing even better if America could stop torturing/bombing Muslims for five minutes (we've made huge strides recently, but the rhetoric that extremists are putting out to recruit terrorists is that America is out to destroy Islam. With the pictures from Abu-Ghraib and America waging war against two Islamic countries, they can actually sell it pretty well, which has led to MASSIVE increases in terrorist attacks worldwide since the beginning of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars).
*Check out Just Peacemaking, it's a theory on how to make peace that all three Abrahamic faiths are getting ready to sign off on, which will be a huge step forward in peacemaking efforts in the middle east.
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RE: Atheists: If God suddenly made his presence known... would you shit bricks?
November 19, 2010 at 3:45 am
(November 19, 2010 at 3:43 am)coffeeveritas Wrote: (November 18, 2010 at 11:20 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: (November 18, 2010 at 7:27 pm)coffeeveritas Wrote: If God revealed Himself, I guess I'd just have to face facts.... wait, I already believe in God.
What if God introduced himself as "Allah" and came along with his primary prophet "Muhammad"? How would you react then?
Ha! Great question Paladin! I guess I'd have to start praying 5 times a day, which I kind of want to do anyway. Really the way the Muslim faith centers itself around practice instead of theory is something Christians can learn from, and the sense of meaning in following the pillars of Islam must be profound. Well "Allah" just means "God" anyway, so not much difference there, but as for Muhammad it would change my viewpoint some, obviously I would have to start reading the Koran as inspired, but I think there is a great deal of overlap there so I would still feel pretty comfortable. Plus, praying 5 times a day on a cool little prayer rug sounds like such a great ritual. OH!, and I would get to go to Mecca, you can only get into the city if you're Muslim. So overall, not too bad getting to know my good friends the Muslims even better, plus, cool little rug. Of course I highly doubt that would happen, but as I've said many times, the truth's the truth.
Recently Muslims, Jews, and Christians are getting along better*, and would be doing even better if America could stop torturing/bombing Muslims for five minutes (we've made huge strides recently, but the rhetoric that extremists are putting out to recruit terrorists is that America is out to destroy Islam. With the pictures from Abu-Ghraib and America waging war against two Islamic countries, they can actually sell it pretty well, which has led to MASSIVE increases in terrorist attacks worldwide since the beginning of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars).
*Check out Just Peacemaking, it's a theory on how to make peace that all three Abrahamic faiths are getting ready to sign off on, which will be a huge step forward in peacemaking efforts in the middle east.
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RE: Atheists: If God suddenly made his presence known... would you shit bricks?
November 19, 2010 at 3:49 am
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I would weep, a sadomasochistic God and no one to kill him.
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RE: Atheists: If God suddenly made his presence known... would you shit bricks?
November 19, 2010 at 7:21 am
(November 17, 2010 at 12:07 am)Godschild Wrote: I've read all your answers to this point and find none of you except Paul the Human being honest or realistic. If Christ returns in our life time I wish that we all would be setting on a rock together so that I could see the expressions on your faces. I do think I would have enough time to do so because Christ will first raise the dead that have trusted Him for their salvation.... Oh wait that would give me a second facial expression to see before Christ translated all the living who trust in Him for their salvation... oh wait that would be a third facial expression I would get to see as I was waving goodby to you guys.
Actually I would not be able to take my eyes off of Christ to see your faces, so I guess I'll just have to guess what each one of you look like and then choose what expressions might appear on your faces.
This would be me, with great joy in my heart.
This would be you guys saying something like this: why didn't you tell me this was possible: hey you were an atheist when you came to this site: yea but I was still thinking there might be a God: it's not my fault you listened to me: man I wish I had listened to mom now..... and on and on it would go.
Sorry buddy, life will never be that gay. lol.
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RE: Atheists: If God suddenly made his presence known... would you shit bricks?
November 19, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Quote:Recently Muslims, Jews, and Christians are getting along better*, and would be doing even better if America could stop torturing/bombing Muslims for five minutes (we've made huge strides recently, but the rhetoric that extremists are putting out to recruit terrorists is that America is out to destroy Islam. With the pictures from Abu-Ghraib and America waging war against two Islamic countries, they can actually sell it pretty well, which has led to MASSIVE increases in terrorist attacks worldwide since the beginning of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars).
*Check out Just Peacemaking, it's a theory on how to make peace that all three Abrahamic faiths are getting ready to sign off on, which will be a huge step forward in peacemaking efforts in the middle east.
Sorry doesnt work that way, the closer religions are to the same myths the harder they fight.
Catholics and protestants are almost the same religion and come from the same root religion judaism. See how that worked out.
They all hate each other and millions have died because of it.
No one seems to ruck with the budhists and when hindus ruck with muslims its over land not religion.
and look at the sunni and shia muslims their scraps are the bloodiest of all.
I have no idea why its the small differences that cause the biggest spats, but it seems to be fundamental to religions.
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RE: Atheists: If God suddenly made his presence known... would you shit bricks?
November 19, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Well, i suppose because with the Jews, Christians, and Muslims it is all the same god (originally), more-so with Sunni and Shia or Christians and Catholics. Whereas they can just dismiss Buddhists and Hindus as weirdos who don't even know who the *real* god is.
Can you imagine a group of people being captured by a bunch of Shia extremist... what would be the order of torture/death/etc from the following list and what would the level of punishment applied be?
Atheist
Agnostic
Deist
Sunni
Pantheist
Christian
Jew
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RE: Atheists: If God suddenly made his presence known... would you shit bricks?
November 19, 2010 at 4:28 pm
(November 19, 2010 at 3:23 pm)Loki_999 Wrote: Well, i suppose because with the Jews, Christians, and Muslims it is all the same god (originally), more-so with Sunni and Shia or Christians and Catholics. Whereas they can just dismiss Buddhists and Hindus as weirdos who don't even know who the *real* god is.
Can you imagine a group of people being captured by a bunch of Shia extremist... what would be the order of torture/death/etc from the following list and what would the level of punishment applied be?
Atheist
Agnostic
Deist
Sunni
Pantheist
Christian
Jew
I think the jew would get the worst ot it, theres a bit of history there.
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