The Rights disdain of Hillary, where does it come from?

[Minimalist]

However, it seems they are just downright afraid of this woman women.

FTFY.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

so ... ?

Go ahead and finish your thought.

She won the popular vote (leading by around 3 million votes). You said she didn't have any redeeming qualities, and yet the majority of voters must have thought differently. I think what's happening here is simply that you don't like the woman (that's alright, it's not like I'm the biggest fan of her), and you rationalize this by arguing she had no redeeming qualities, when she wasn't worse in terms of policies or personality than her husband or the previous two POTUSes.

Hillary won the popular vote in 20 States.  She lost the popular vote in 30 States.  She could have gotten every single vote in the States she won and she would have lost the election.  

When will people understand how the Presidential election system works in America?

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Same is true for Nancy Pelosi.  Maybe they'll oblige us and make it easier for left leaning young person to vote for someone who isn't a complete horror like the WLB.

Won't work in the Rust Belt and Coal States. Dems will probably have to put up more moderate candidates like Lamb and Manchin if they hope to win back the voters there. The more left leaning candidates will do better in the coastal states like California and New York.

If the politicians won't support the party platform why should they be elected?  I know the main reason they run for office is so that they can get rich but they do have to do a few things for the dummies once in a while.

[Catholic_Lady]

She lost to freaking Donald Trump. She sucks. Trump sucks too. These are the 2 most unpopular candidates ever and an embarrassment to both parties. Both parties would do well to stop defending each of them respectively. Nothing more to be said.

[The Grand Nudger]

The popular vote isn't determined state by state, wyrd.  That's pretty much the opposite of what it means for something to -be- the popular vote at the federal level.  Simply conceptualizing it that way is the very kernel of cracking and packing that's fucked our elections.  

For simplicity's sake, if we chunked up "the popular vote" state by state, and there were ten states..then we could say that some candidate "won the popular vote in nine states" even if they only won 9 votes of out a possible 100.  The reason that we don;t..is that this completly and fundamentally misses the very thing we're discussing when we discuss the popular vote,.

Trump lost the popular vote, not by a little..by a lot, period.  However much we the people hate hitlery, we the people decided to vote for her rather than him...regardless of how effectively his minority stake was positioned to game our system.

[Tiberius]

Must they have?  Do you have to think positively of someone to vote for them over Donald Trump in a 2 party system?  
Her policies were certainly a blend of the previous 3 presidents.  I don't think 'more of the same' served her well.  And her personality?  You are speaking the crazy.  Bill/W/Obama all were charming as hell.  They still are.  Bill seems to have done some raping, but he's so charming, people still like him.  W broke the country, but people still find him endearing.
She was a robot status quo.

The US isn't a two party system, at least not officially. There were other candidates, and they also got votes. We didn't vote for Clinton or Trump. Clinton still won our state handily.

Hillary won the popular vote in 20 States.  She lost the popular vote in 30 States.  She could have gotten every single vote in the States she won and she would have lost the election.  

When will people understand how the Presidential election system works in America?

I think he does understand how the election system works, he's just pointing out her overall popularity. Comparing popular vote between the states is pointless, because states differ in population. The fact remains that the majority of the entire country wanted her as President.

[Tiberius]

Relevant CGP Grey:

https://youtu.be/7wC42HgLA4k?t=4m16s

[Whateverist]

Same is true for Nancy Pelosi.  Maybe they'll oblige us and make it easier for left leaning young person to vote for someone who isn't a complete horror like the WLB.

Won't work in the Rust Belt and Coal States. Dems will probably have to put up more moderate candidates like Lamb and Manchin if they hope to win back the voters there. The more left leaning candidates will do better in the coastal states like California and New York.

And working is what we need if we are avoid becoming a dictator-for-life banana republic.  I would hope you'd want that too.

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She's a smart woman. Even I'm not a huge fan, but I will admit she's very smart. Dumb men don't like smart women.

*Having thumbs-upped this post, I should specify that I do so as a smart man who likes smart women, not as a dumb man approving the disliking of smart women.  (If I were just a little smarter I'd realize this clarification probably wasn't needed.)

[Shell B]

I realized yesterday while talking with Tibs after I snapped at him for telling me something medical was fine that I'm used to being dismissed as a woman or talked down to. Context so you don't think Tibs or I are assholes:

My skin reacted in a weird way to something, and I thought, "Huh, that's really interesting/weird." So, I called Tibs over and was like, "Look at that. Isn't that weird?" He gave it due attention and was like, "Yeah, but it's fine." and walked out of the room. I took this to mean that he thought I didn't think it was fine, like I was hysterical over something that was obviously benign and went away. So, I snappily said, "I didn't think it wasn't fine." I automatically thought he considered me to be hysterical. Looking back, I realized it was because, as a woman, I've been treated like I'm stupid or hysterical by lots of people. For example, I once had a woman get a knife through her foot at a family party in my house. She knocked it off a table and was bleeding everywhere. I didn't see it. When I came in the house, her blood was in a trail across three rooms. I asked what had happened, learned she was on her way to the hospital and then proceeded to ask more questions about her condition. A man I had never met before, he was friends with my then in-laws, looked at me, without answering my questions, and said, "Calm down." I was perfectly calm. I was a chef for 10 years, and went to welding and metal fabrication school before that. I've seen worse than a stabbed foot. There are plenty of other instances like that. Anyway, my point is that I'm immediately defensive. Tibs was just trying to be reassuring, and was hungry, which is why he just kind of walked off, yet I assumed he thought I needed to be told I was okay because I'm a fainting violet or some shit.

Hillary Clinton had to walk through a quagmire of people thinking she was some conniving bitch who was too weak to keep her husband's attention. Those people are pieces of shit. I had my own reason for not voting for her, but none of them are that it's ingrained in me to look down on women. I'd vote for Michelle Obama.

[vorlon13]

Jesus Fucking Christ,

in the reporting of the McCabe mess today Huma and Anthony's mugs were both shown.


Jesus, they can't leave Anthony in prison long enough to suit me . . . . .

[A Theist]

Won't work in the Rust Belt and Coal States. Dems will probably have to put up more moderate candidates like Lamb and Manchin if they hope to win back the voters there. The more left leaning candidates will do better in the coastal states like California and New York.

If the Lamb guy keeps his word, and is willing to negotiate like Manchin, maybe a slew of guys like that is just what the country needs.

Trump campaigned on the things that Manchin and Lamb support in their States as well as the blue collar workers they represent. They don't like NAFTA, they support the President's tariffs, .....but, like you said, we'll find out how much he distances himself from Pelosi once he takes his seat in Congress.

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She won the popular vote (leading by around 3 million votes). You said she didn't have any redeeming qualities, and yet the majority of voters must have thought differently. I think what's happening here is simply that you don't like the woman (that's alright, it's not like I'm the biggest fan of her), and you rationalize this by arguing she had no redeeming qualities, when she wasn't worse in terms of policies or personality than her husband or the previous two POTUSes.

Hillary won the popular vote in 20 States.  She lost the popular vote in 30 States.  She could have gotten every single vote in the States she won and she would have lost the election.  

When will people understand how the Presidential election system works in America?

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Won't work in the Rust Belt and Coal States. Dems will probably have to put up more moderate candidates like Lamb and Manchin if they hope to win back the voters there. The more left leaning candidates will do better in the coastal states like California and New York.

If the politicians won't support the party platform why should they be elected?  I know the main reason they run for office is so that they can get rich but they do have to do a few things for the dummies once in a while.

You could also say, if the politicians put their party platform over the people they're supposed to represent why should voters elect them to political office?