Stem cell therapy with MS

[henryp]

They can only give you stem cells that you already have. They extract it from one part of your body (like bone marrow) and inject it where it needs to be. My basic understanding is that cells spawn new differentiated cells over time which are more specialised than them. Stem cells can grow any other more specialised cell. But once you lose all your stem cells you don't have too much longer left to live.

On the other hand, if your body is attacking itself and not ever properly healing again, your quality of life starts to degrade much faster anyway so it's always a compromise.

This may be what you can get in the US.  But they are doing stuff with umbilical cords down in Panama that is not what you are describing.

[I_am_not_mafia]

Good for you. How are the sx effecting your quality of life? Had to make any significant changes? 

Keep it to yourself if needed.

Thanks

Only symptoms I really have left is the diminished sensation in my fingers but I can still type quickly. It means that it's too painful to play a stringed instrument like a guitar, or feel where the holes are on a keyless flute. Suddenly losing my ability to type made me realise how my entire career is dependent upon it. I get other symptoms like itching sometimes but that's more of a nuisance really. I don't really suffer fatigue anymore because I walk about 3 miles each way getting to work and back. Vitamins also help with fatigue.

It's incredibly difficult to know whether symptoms are getting better or worse sometimes, because they are affected by temperature, tiredness and how well you are adapting to them.

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They can only give you stem cells that you already have. They extract it from one part of your body (like bone marrow) and inject it where it needs to be. My basic understanding is that cells spawn new differentiated cells over time which are more specialised than them. Stem cells can grow any other more specialised cell. But once you lose all your stem cells you don't have too much longer left to live.

On the other hand, if your body is attacking itself and not ever properly healing again, your quality of life starts to degrade much faster anyway so it's always a compromise.

This may be what you can get in the US.  But they are doing stuff with umbilical cords down in Panama that is not what you are describing.

Interesting thanks. I didn't know that the had started harvesting stem cells from donated umbilical cords. Btw, I live in the UK.

[Shell B]

They started that in the U.S. a few years ago. I think it's done by private companies, though, and you have to set it up in advance of the birth, so lots of parents aren't even thinking about it.

[Minimalist]

It was recently announced that they had begun treating macular degeneration with stem cell therapy with promising results in a small trial.

http://www.newsweek.com/stem-cell-patch-...nds-853209

Stem Cell Therapy Reverses Blindness in Two Patients

FWIW, our dog rescue took in a 7 year old boy with hip dysplasia and the surgical procedures outlined by the doctor were gruesome.  They could only do one hip at a time and each one required a 12 week recovery process and extensive physical therapy.  The surgeon suggested stem cell treatment as an alternative.  I haven't seen him since but his adoptive parents swear that his walk is much improved and he gets up and down easily.  The whole process took three injections and one minor surgery to extract fat cells from his shoulder to separate out the stem cells.  He was done in 3 months.  The cost was less than a third of regular surgery and it was much easier on the dog.  So, yeah.  This is starting to look like the Holy Grail of medicine.

[Edwardo Piet]

https://www.cellmedicine.com/

This is probably a better link to show what's happening rather than Joe Rogan podcast.

Joe Rogan... that guy who seems like a really nice guy and has some really smart people on his show. But they're often 10 times smarter than he is which I guess is part of what makes it entertaining lol.

His guest will say something really intellectual and eloquent and he'll more or less be like "Yeah I know what you mean bro, I get that all the time man." lol. He's definitely more brawn than brains but he's a cool guy who interviews some smart people and it can be really entertaining how the interviews go and how the amusing digressions happen lol.

I didn't have the attention span to read the article. Is it pro stem cell research or anti stem cell research? Because I was under the impression it was pro stem cell research but then when CL and MK kudos it I'm like "Huh?".

Unless I'm being presumptuous because you guys are both against abortion and stuff for religious reasons, I assumed you were anti-stem research for the same reasons.

@ CL: Are you pro Stem Cell research?

@ MK: Are you pro Stem Cell research?

Thank you.

[Catholic_Lady]

I am pro, so long as they don't use young human beings for it who would otherwise still be alive. There is no ethical problem with it Otherwise.

https://stemcell.nd.edu/ethics/

[Edwardo Piet]

So you're not a fan of taking stem cells from embryos?

[Minimalist]

You're about 10 years behind the times, C/L.  In the past, stem cells were extracted from "leftover embryos" from people who underwent fertility treatments.  Such transfer was always done with the consent of the donors.  Far from being young human beings these were embryos that no one had any further use for and which would have been discarded.

Now stem cells are extracted from the hosts themselves.  The primary benefit is that since the cells are part of the body the odds of rejection are substantially reduced.  As I noted above, we did this with a dog and no puppies were harmed in the process.

[brewer]

Stem cell transplants can be allogeneic (not from host/recipient) or autologous (from host/recipient).

[Shell B]

My neurologist thinks I have this horrible condition called trigeminal neuralgia. I'm hoping the MRI says otherwise. Anyway, I talked to another woman who has it, and she had stem cell treatment done in Australia for it. It worked. I have no idea how. Most people who have it have a blood vessel interfering with the main nerve in the face. She must have had some other factor going on. Stem cells are totally the good shit.