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RE: Question for the heterosexual men of AF
March 22, 2018 at 10:12 am
I am not proud to say i imagine me not being secure enough with myself to take it further.
Perhaps if i truly was in love, I'd talk differently. But I'm not seeing it now.
I've been with The love of my life for almost seven years now. If she told me this today, i'd feel betrayed for being lied to for all these years. But if she told me before we got serious, i don't think things would have gotten serious. Despite missing The greatest of joys in my life.
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RE: Question for the heterosexual men of AF
March 22, 2018 at 10:14 am
Yeah, I've had this conversation before. If my significant other dropped a huge secret like being transgender or gay on me, it would be the lie that killed our relationship. Well, that and the fact that they're not sexually attracted to me.
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RE: Question for the heterosexual men of AF
March 22, 2018 at 10:18 am
(This post was last modified: March 22, 2018 at 10:20 am by The Grand Nudger.)
In which case the answer is no..it's not the fact they were transgender alone, but the idea that they had lied to you.
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RE: Question for the heterosexual men of AF
March 22, 2018 at 10:18 am
(March 21, 2018 at 8:47 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: This question comes from the exchange between Ham and Flying Narwhal on this thread: https://atheistforums.org/thread-53967.html (relevant part begins on page 2).
So, I got curious and wanted to ask here. If you were initially attracted to someone you saw and spoke with (maybe went on a couple dates with), and found out after the fact that this person is biologically male because they told you, would this fact alone be a deal breaker to you in terms of continuing to pursue a romantic relationship? Would you no longer feel sexually attracted to the person nor interested in pursuing a romantic relationship with them? Please be honest and explain your response.
*Assume this person has done all the sex reassignment surgical procedures/hormone therapy, etc, for the transition process and looks feminine.
Up to the individual, that is all that can be said.
I do not think it makes one a bigot if they say they would not.
I think it is up to the person who had the surgery to be honest with any potential partner.
I don't see that as any different in any potential love interest. Any relationship starting with omissions and or lies, is always going to lead to mistrust.
I would say to society though, if you want the honesty, then don't get upset if transgender do tell you upfront. Just take the attempt as a complement and say yes or no.
Just like I am attracted to some women and not others. Even with gays, if they hit on me, since I am not gay, I say "I'm flattered" but no.
Honesty and consent, not someone's orientation.
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RE: Question for the heterosexual men of AF
March 22, 2018 at 10:22 am
(March 22, 2018 at 10:11 am)Khemikal Wrote: Or if..in future.....a sex change operation involved growing ones very own vagina through gene editing or stem cells or what have you. It'd be their very own real bits.
Though, I have to say...most of the responses in this thread don;t even begin to engage with th OP question. It;s more a list of why people don;t fancy trans this or thats...but.the conjecture begins with the fact that you do, and how you then respond to this fact.
I was reffering to an improve in technology in sex change operations, I chose the most drastic one in order to make a better point. The main problem I think is that in this situation a contradiction occurs in our mind when we receive the information, basically I think this is the reason why this is such a controversial topic.
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RE: Question for the heterosexual men of AF
March 22, 2018 at 1:10 pm
Hammy, there's plenty enough desperate guys like you to service the trans women out there, so what's the big deal?
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RE: Question for the heterosexual men of AF
March 22, 2018 at 1:10 pm
All I can think about is an episode of The IT Crowd. Actually my favorite episode.
“What screws us up the most in life is the picture in our head of what it's supposed to be.”
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RE: Question for the heterosexual men of AF
March 22, 2018 at 1:24 pm
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RE: Question for the heterosexual men of AF
March 22, 2018 at 2:07 pm
(March 22, 2018 at 1:10 pm)alpha male Wrote: Hammy, there's plenty enough desperate guys like you to service the trans women out there, so what's the big deal?
Why would someone being attracted to transgender make them "desperate"?
No self respecting transgender would ever want you with that attitude.
Nobody is saying you have to be attracted yourself. But you are full of shit if you think being transgender is some sort of defect or fetish.
Not surprised though, this is what old mythology does to humans. Teaches them to be judgmental.
By your logic anyone who eats a veggie burger has a fetish because you think they should stick to meat.
How about a better attitude? Mind your own fucking business if you are not in that relationship?
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RE: Question for the heterosexual men of AF
March 22, 2018 at 2:11 pm
(March 21, 2018 at 8:47 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: This question comes from the exchange between Ham and Flying Narwhal on this thread: https://atheistforums.org/thread-53967.html (relevant part begins on page 2).
So, I got curious and wanted to ask here. If you were initially attracted to someone you saw and spoke with (maybe went on a couple dates with), and found out after the fact that this person is biologically male because they told you, would this fact alone be a deal breaker to you in terms of continuing to pursue a romantic relationship? Would you no longer feel sexually attracted to the person nor interested in pursuing a romantic relationship with them? Please be honest and explain your response.
*Assume this person has done all the sex reassignment surgical procedures/hormone therapy, etc, for the transition process and looks feminine.
Do they still have a penis coz that would definitely be a deal breaker. About the rest I honestly don't know. It think I may be taken a back but get through it, like the time I was dating a girl with a nice tan then discovered she was actually black. I was just surprised fro a second.
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