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who created christianity
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 dqualk Wrote:Mini grow up. With your straw man arguements. The fact is I've read more about the history of teh Church, secular, atheist, and various Christian viewpoints then what youve read about anything in your life. You really dont know what your getting into here. But it will be fun to watch.  You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.  dqualk Wrote:Mini grow up. With your straw man arguements. The fact is I've read more about the history of teh Church, secular, atheist, and various Christian viewpoints then what youve read about anything in your life. I'm sure all of it written by staunch defenders of your particular superstition. Perish the thought that someone like you would ever read anything critical. The church is a criminal enterprise. Has been virtually from the start.  RE: who created christianity
January 17, 2011 at 7:19 am
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2011 at 7:21 am by Anomalocaris.)
dqualk Wrote:. The fact is I've read more about the history of teh Church, secular, atheist, and various Christian viewpoints then what youve read about anything in your life. You know this to be a fact how? Best go back to your bible and avoid nasty things like "facts". You and facts do not go well together.  Quote:dqualk;114460 Wrote: Oh My Ghey God!!! dqualk isn't long for this world is he/she??? Wish he/she would use spell check and brush up on their grammar....I am guessing that being catatonic does not require the correct use of English and would posit that it is proof positive that the 'early church fathers' never understood Latin either. Or any other language for that matter..... "The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
(January 17, 2011 at 8:39 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:Quote:dqualk;114460 Wrote: But apparently he knows how well read each one of us is. Somehow. 
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.
Grammar is the least of this one's problems.
Yeah try me. I've read enough to know that "Constantine and his gang of thugs" did not start Christianity. And I am still willing to bet that I've read more into Church history than most, this includes primary sources and writings from various authors from atheists to people of various religious beliefs.
(January 17, 2011 at 10:39 pm)dqualk Wrote: Yeah try me. I've read enough to know that "Constantine and his gang of thugs" did not start Christianity. And I am still willing to bet that I've read more into Church history than most, this includes primary sources and writings from various authors from atheists to people of various religious beliefs. No need. You've failed. Underhandedly misrepresenting your own words will not save you.
I can make baseless accusations too creepy elephant person.
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arc.../nicea.htm
Quote:The controversy greatly agitated Emperor Constantine, and he sent a letter to Arius and Alexander in an attempt to persuade them to lay aside their differences. He wrote, "This contention has not arisen respecting any important command of the law, nor has any new opinion been introduced with regard to the worship of God; but you both entertain the same sentiments, so that you may join in one communion. It is thought to be not only indecorous, but altogether unlawful, that so numerous a people of God should be governed and directed at your pleasure, while you are thus emulously contending with each other, and quarrelling about small and very trifling matters." Or perhaps because he did. Quote:Constantine did play an important role at the Council. Eusebius of Caesarea reports that he played an key part in calming, convincing, and bringing all to agreement on contested points. The account of Eusebius fairly glows in regard to the Emperor, and he is portrayed as a key figure. It is nowhere suggested, however, that he was permitted to vote with the bishops nor that he used any form of force to obtain an outcome. So Eusebius of Caesarea, the Liar-in-Chief of the early church kissed the emperor's ass. What a surprise. Constantine was a coarse military man interested only in his own personal aggrandizement. He was a murdering thug. Eusebius aside...and it is easy to dismiss him as the chief propagandist of the catholic church...what makes more sense?[/quote] That this vicious politician who did not give a shit about religion but saw it as a way to control the population bothered to "mediate" or that he would revert to form and tell these pious shitheads to get their act together or he'd find someone who would? I'll go with the latter. |
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